(Once you have read this - you can read an important follow up article here - Ed.)
Having spent a week camping in the Kingdom of Fife, I come home to a new alleged photograph of the Loch Ness Monster. It would therefore be remiss of me not to comment on this latest image, not just to add it to the blog's history of Loch Ness and its unfathomable inhabitant but also attempt to wade through what is being said about it.
Having spent a week camping in the Kingdom of Fife, I come home to a new alleged photograph of the Loch Ness Monster. It would therefore be remiss of me not to comment on this latest image, not just to add it to the blog's history of Loch Ness and its unfathomable inhabitant but also attempt to wade through what is being said about it.
This is the account from the Daily Mail.
He has dedicated more than two decades of his life to the hunt for the elusive Loch Ness monster, spending 60 hours a week on the water. And now George Edwards believes he has finally fulfilled his ambition of spotting 'Nessie'; he even photographic evidence to prove it. Mr Edwards, who has spent 26 years on his quest, managed to capture this image
of a dark hump slinking in and out of the lake's waters from the deck
of his boat, Nessie Hunter, before it vanished back into the deep. He claims the picture is the best-ever taken of the Loch Ness Monster and proves once and for all that
the elusive leviathan exists - and is definitely not a sturgeon.
He says he has even had it
independently verified by a team of US military monster experts as well
as a Nessie sighting specialist. Mr Edwards spends his life on the loch -
around 60 hours a week - taking tourists out on his boat Nessie Hunter
IV, and has led numerous Nessie hunts over the years.
'I was just about to return to Temple
Pier (in Drumnadrochit) and I went to the back of the boat which was
facing the pier and that’s when I saw it,' said 60-year-old Mr Edwards, a
lifelong believer in the monster.
'It was slowly moving up the loch
towards Urquhart Castle and it was a dark grey colour. It was quite a
fair way from the boat, probably about half a mile away but it’s
difficult to tell in water.'
After watching the object for five to ten minutes, Mr Edwards said it slowly sank below the surface and never resurfaced.
'I’m
convinced I was seeing Nessie as I believe in these creatures. Far too
many people have being seeing them for far too long,' he said.
'The first recorded sighting was in 565AD and there have been thousands of eye witness reports since then. All
these people can’t be telling lies. And the fact the reports stretch
over so many years mean there can’t just be one of them. I’m convinced
there are several monsters.'
Steve
Feltham, who has dedicated the past 21 years to hunting for Nessie was
unequivocval. 'It is the best photograph I think I have ever seen,' he
said. From his base on Dores beach and has studied many Nessie sighting photographs.
'I think the images are fantastic - that’s the animal I have been looking for all this time,' he said yesterday.
'I would say it doesn’t prove what Nessie is, but it does prove what
Nessie isn’t, a sturgeon which is a fish that has been put forward as
one of the main explanations as to what Nessie could be but this hasn’t
got a serrated spine like the sturgeon.'
Mr Edwards attempted to use his vessel’s sonar to make a contact but to no avail.
'I hung around for a good
half-an-hour and used the deep scanning sonar to try and pick it up, but
I’m afraid I had no luck at all.'
Mr Edwards took the photo at 9am on 2nd November last year on a compact Samsung digital camera that he always keeps on the boat.
Before releasing it publicly he sent it to the USA for analysis, though he can’t reveal further details.
'I
did not want to mention my sighting until I was sure that I had not
photographed a log or something inanimate in the water,' he said. 'I
have friends in the USA who have friends in the military. They
had my photo analysed and they have no doubt that I photographed an
animate object in the water. I was really excited as I am sure that some
strange creatures are lurking in the depths of Loch Ness.'
I actually was informed of this photograph by a local man back in May when the photograph appeared on a postcard sold by George Edwards from around Easter which is shown below and tells us a bit about George's Nessie hunting history.
The pictures marked 3 and 4 are the one of interest whilst picture 2 is of the cruiser boat that George Edwards (in picture 6) employs in his tourist trade. Picture 5 reminds us of George Edward's other claim to fame which was the alleged 1989 "Edward's Deep" which he claimed registered a record depth of 812ft in Loch Ness (as opposed to the accepted 754ft). This reading is disputed and has not been officially recognised.
Picture 1 is of another image allegedly of Nessie in its single hump aspect taken by George Edwards on the 6th June 1986 at about 7am to which we shall return.
Some years prior to all this, George had been working on a Nessie book called "In Search of Eioch Uisge (The Water Horse)" which had been mooted for publication in the late 1990s but so far only extracts of it have surfaced on the Internet. This is a pity as it would have offered some insight into a person who has claimed to have seen the creature up to 19 times.
Three claims against the pictures are made. The first that the sun could not be that high at 9am on the 2nd November. The second is that the object is much closer than the claimed "half mile" and the third asks why only one picture was taken if the object was visible for up to 10 minutes.
On the first point, the shadow on the enlargement below does suggest to me that the sun is on the opposite side to the south east though on that day the sun does not rise until 0720. A look at the picture shows that the castle's north west side is darker than the rest which is supportive of this idea. It is not readily apparent from the picture whether the sun is low in the sky or this is just cloud reflection.
The sun position on that day and time are shown below. From the red marker showing the probable site of the incident, the green line points to sunrise, the yellow to where the sun is at 9am and the red line is sunset.
On the second point, it has to be admitted that the object is not half a mile away. In the top picture, you can see Urquhart Castle which is about one mile away from the stated position at Temple Pier. To the bottom left of the picture you can see an object which is undoubtedly part of the boat he is on. Based on that, I would guess the object is much, much closer. However, George Edwards is rather non-committal on the distance which given the alleged analysis by military experts is rather disappointing. They said the picture shows an animate object (though no wake is unambiguously visible) which leads me to ask George if I could see a copy of their analysis.
But there is actually a concentric ripple around the object which can help estimate distance. It is just about visible on the outer edges of the zoom in above. As you may know, a circular ripple seen at an angle can appear elliptical. The "flatness" of the ellipse can allow the angle of observation to be calculated and if the height of the observer above the water is known, then so can the distance to the object.
The ellipse has a ratio of about 12:34 (0.35) which suggests an angle of observation of about 31 degrees. If the observer is standing 3 metres above the water then a bit of trigonometry gives a distance of 5 metres (another study emailed to me suggests 13 metres).
Witnesses being accused of being vague or wrong about dates, times and distances is part and parcel of media reporting of theses stories and I personally regard them as of secondary importance. I say that after recent experiences of newspapers getting some facts wrong. It always seemed strange to me that a witness would lie about such things. What is to be gained from such a stance especially as George Edwards himself is well aware of the depth of questioning that is applied to modern photographs purporting to be of Nessie.
The third point about why further photographs were not taken may seem an irrelevance but the context for asking such a question is the idea of motion. If the object was indeed moving slowly towards the castle, then a sequence of pictures would not only show this but reinforce the case for the images being genuine (as a sequence is harder to fake).
If one were a sceptic, the case may seem closed at this point, but I would like to hear Mr. Edwards address these points before making further comment.
On a more serious note, I said I would get back to that 1986 photograph. Dick Raynor worked with George Edwards for some years and said this about the earlier photo at his website:
"Passengers on George Edwards Cruise boat
"Nessie Hunter" will also be familiar with the photograph he
took in 1986, now available for sale on the boat for 50 pence. I
remember him telling me at the time how hard it had been to drag the water
filled tube out of the back of a van and down to the water before it was
towed
out into the loch!"
If that is true then Mr. Edwards is in serious trouble. However, as with the scutter about distance, time and number of photos, I invite George to exercise his right of reply before the matter is settled.
But if we lay these things aside and approach the picture from the opposite direction, what can we further say? The first thing is that the object appears rather flat along its presumed spine. What this would indicate I could not tell. There is a general reddish brown colour to the object but with a darker ridge running along the top. The general shape in my opinion is not suggestive of seals, deer or otters.
The wave patterns around the object strike me as being interesting. There is a general pattern of waves washing in from the loch towards the photographer in a line roughly parallel to the horizontal axis of the picture. However, there is also some unique wave formations around the object.
I mentioned earlier the just visible concentric ripples which is more suggestive of a stationary object bobbing up and down than an object moving towards the castle. But water is a complicated medium and the complexity of interpreting waves can get too much if multiple forces are acting on the water. Indeed, if this was a fake Nessie tethered by a buoy, I may have expected more concentric ripples reaching as far as the boat, but that is just speculation on my part.
The bottom line is that this picture raises more questions than it answers and until Mr. Edwards helps out by answering some of my questions, then this picture needs to be treated with caution.
But if we lay these things aside and approach the picture from the opposite direction, what can we further say? The first thing is that the object appears rather flat along its presumed spine. What this would indicate I could not tell. There is a general reddish brown colour to the object but with a darker ridge running along the top. The general shape in my opinion is not suggestive of seals, deer or otters.
The wave patterns around the object strike me as being interesting. There is a general pattern of waves washing in from the loch towards the photographer in a line roughly parallel to the horizontal axis of the picture. However, there is also some unique wave formations around the object.
I mentioned earlier the just visible concentric ripples which is more suggestive of a stationary object bobbing up and down than an object moving towards the castle. But water is a complicated medium and the complexity of interpreting waves can get too much if multiple forces are acting on the water. Indeed, if this was a fake Nessie tethered by a buoy, I may have expected more concentric ripples reaching as far as the boat, but that is just speculation on my part.
The bottom line is that this picture raises more questions than it answers and until Mr. Edwards helps out by answering some of my questions, then this picture needs to be treated with caution.
Despite being a "Nessie" believer, I have to say that this one smells fishy - and not in a good way!
ReplyDeleteJust the one photograph is not good enough for this kind of sighting in the modern age.
I also agree with Ed on this one..... And grateful for the back ground surrounding Mr. Edwards from Glasgow Boy. Once again, the analysis in this blog has be remarkable and impressive. It's raised troubling questions about "the best photograph ever taken of the Loch Ness Monster". I look forward to hearing more supportive details from Mr. Edwards. On another note, Steve Feltham is quoted as saying 'I think the images are fantastic" ... is it possible there are more than just this one that he's seen?
ReplyDeleteGood point about "images", if that were true it may change things. So far Mr.Edwards has not replied to my email...
DeleteIt's asymmetrical, tear-drop shape looks identical to the leftmost hump in the Lachlan Stuart photo. That fact taken alone means absolutely nothing of course, but it's still a bit intriguing. To me the ripples around the hump make it look like it's following the boat, not headed in the opposite direction!
ReplyDeleteIt could be anything.
ReplyDeleteI have no reason not to believe George Edwards is sincere in his testimony at this point, he sounds reasonable, intelligent, educated on the subject, and grounded. He said he watched the object for 10 minutes slowly sink out of sight, I think that's a good amount of time to observe it.
ReplyDeleteAnd I would agree, it IS ONE of the best photographs of the creature IF it is genuine. Wish he had captured more photos in that time.
And that is the problem; if you or I had a 10 minute audience with Nessie we would have hundreds of photographs to back it up.
DeleteI used to be a big nessie believer. I think we all find it exotic to think that some unknown, or even prehistoric creature could live in the loch.
ReplyDeleteBut seriously.. the facts are so against it. Animals only live for so long, and you'd have to have a race of animals living in the loch to sustain continued sightings for centuries. A race would have more common sightings, esp if these are animals which surface to breathe - with an actual head. Maybe they have nostrils on their humps?? :-p
Highly suspect is an individual who:
- Has "seen" the creature over 19 times, but hasn't had the thought to maybe snap a pic after, oh maybe, the first time? Maybe now's a good time since the book may be near completion.
-Runs a tourist boat which tells Nessie stories and rides the loch. Oh and he sold this pic on a postcard apparently?
-Like some others have noticed.. a couple of pics after 10 minutes? LMAO. Maybe he did take more, but these were the only ones that didn't look like the plastic float that he threw out behind his boat.
- Also.. maybe a video would have been good? This was taken on a samsung digicam he says. You know they do this video thing, when you turn the little dial to the moviecam icon? Just saying..
- And last but not least... saying it was looked at by a fictional "military specialist" and US authorities, but gave no details. Maybe it was Fox Mulder!
It's a fake, a hoax and the guy is a huckster. Not a very good one at that. If I was going to do the same thing - a hoax that is, I'd get a lot of pics of my fake monster, maybe have a rigging set up behind my boat so I could move it on video. Something with more effort than a floatie thing which I took 2 pictures of in 10 minutes, and didn't take a video of. In this day and age of technology there is absolutely no excuse *whatsoever* to not video something. -- Unless you have something to hide.
After all, faking a lake monster has to be easier than faking a bigfoot picture right? I'm pretty sure my hoax would have a head tho. I'm tired of looking at nothing but distant, fuzzy fake humps.
When I first heard about this picture I thought it was intriguing, because it has similarities to other Nessie photos, but a few red flags also raised. Why only one photo, especially for such a long period of time observing it, and also why no video? Who are these monster hunters? And I read other remarks about the distance from the boat and the light at the time of day, which I don't know enough about to even speculate on. However, newspapers are known for misreporting people and making light of Nessie so I could see them making up the name 'military monster hunters' so I thought I would reserve judgement until you had posted about it.
ReplyDeleteSo thank you for posting about it!
Whether this photo is real or fake, I certainly don't think it is the best picture of Nessie. I think the photo's you have on this blog are all a lot better than this one.
'military monster hunters'
ReplyDeleteSteady on, Zom! Edwards was quoted in newspapers as saying he had sent the photo(s) to friends in America who have friends in the military. Most people have friends in America, and most of those have friends in the military. It was an inherently meaningless sentence that fits well with the rest of his disingenuous comments. He's probably having a bad tourist season and just wanted a bit of free publicity.
Check out his history as a researcher; look for web pages, blogs, books, comments, papers, talks by him. Zilch.
It smells fishy...however, given this individual's experience/knowledge of the subject why lie about easily ascertained things like time of day, distance, etc let alone claim 10 minute duration and provide only 1 photo? Also height from surface of loch/object doesn't seem to fit with being taken from deck of his boat - unless he spent most of the 10 minutes climbing a mast to get a better view of course! Ultimately, newspapers are wholly unreliable and sensationalist in reporting such things and seldom accurate or objective, let alone comprehensive - Glasgow Boy needs to hear it from the horse's mouth.
ReplyDeleteYes, there are some holes in the story. Not least whether there was more than one picture taken. Still no reply from Mr. Edwards, so I am not holding out much hope on answers from him.
DeleteThe fish in this image was caught in a pond in Norfolk. How big could one get the Loch?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/blog/34435/enormous+120-pound+catfish+landed+by+a+5-foot-2+woman/
This may be a false picture...but I once saw something very like this in the loch, it moved back and forth. Hell knows what that was, but if nothing else a mystery lurks in that water.
ReplyDeleteis it real or isnt it.
ReplyDeleteNot a real monster.
DeleteIn 1981, when I was 29, I had a dream I saw the creature - don't care for the sobriquet "monster" - and I hopped on a plane, flew over the Big Pond and went to Inverness where I rented a bicycle and pedaled around Loch Ness. The dream was so lucid I really thought I would sight it, but no. Had a great time, though. I say hurrah for people like George Edwards, shameless huckster or not, who keep the imaginative fires burning in people like myself who still choose to believe in the existence of a breeding colony of plesiosaurs in the depths of these lochs. - Wm. Stage
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