tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post9123737550450120116..comments2024-03-20T18:13:07.791-07:00Comments on LOCH NESS MONSTER: Ted Holiday's Final DaysGlasgow Boyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-85168308129141500762020-12-05T15:19:53.997-08:002020-12-05T15:19:53.997-08:00Thanks, some interesting stuff to read.
Thanks, some interesting stuff to read.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-86492433539910871662020-11-28T18:57:23.260-08:002020-11-28T18:57:23.260-08:00GB i implore you to read prof Michael Sword’s blog...GB i implore you to read prof Michael Sword’s blog on UFO and paranormal. He is a believer of nuts and bolts ufo yet he also believe in paranormal happening maybe due to his personal family experience with such things..<br /><br />his website is http://thebiggeststudy.blogspot.com/<br /><br />theres a case where the professor himself chatted with someone who was experienced hunter who often camp and hunt in the wilderness of Oregon. He said during hunting he always made an indian stone circle to protect against evil , as taught by his father. During his camping he and his friend saw stuff put on the circle and they reciprocate by putting food in circle. this goes on until a magnificient eagle feather was put into the circle.. suddenly now they saw bigfoot around the camp.. the strange part is this , he said bigfoot have special abilities , like he was looking at one and slowly they disappear into thin air..<br /><br />Physical ? paranormal ? or paranormal abilities of physical sasquatch?<br />buntalanlucuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02058846205282464955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-39801429470084999042020-02-06T01:57:39.558-08:002020-02-06T01:57:39.558-08:00I would add a late comment that Nick Redfern found...I would add a late comment that Nick Redfern found a quote from Ted Holiday in which he speculated whether the strange person he met was actually the Loch Ness Kelpie since this creature was reputed in legend to be able to shapeshift into human form. <br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-22239613451886384882018-10-11T15:16:55.377-07:002018-10-11T15:16:55.377-07:00Yes, but he died some years ago.
Yes, but he died some years ago.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-24607455993574868172018-10-11T15:03:41.580-07:002018-10-11T15:03:41.580-07:00Isn't Jan ove sundberg the guy who runs gust?Isn't Jan ove sundberg the guy who runs gust?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17391087449278457974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-9842531164939414432018-06-15T19:12:16.665-07:002018-06-15T19:12:16.665-07:00I'll take that! In general,the problem with pa...I'll take that! In general,the problem with paranormal events is that by their very nature they are unpredictable. Many paranormal events are fraught with high strangeness. The UFO, ghosts, and phenomena of the like are very strange and ridiculous on it's face.<br /><br /> I might even go so far as to say NDE (Near Death Experiences) are “constructed” In my humble opinion, we are being manipulated by some higher intelligence that transcends our reality. Now, you can say that “God” is “toying” with us, but that begs the question. There is an intelligence that knows what we are “thinking” and what our intentions are and manipulating human events. (Simulation Universe ?) As one researcher termed it, a “Cognizant Sentient Phenomenon” Think about it. Call me kookie.John Alvaradohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18069155979480353745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-84168447428030765952018-06-12T07:13:34.187-07:002018-06-12T07:13:34.187-07:00Yes, going paranormal answers questions but raises...Yes, going paranormal answers questions but raises more. One thing it should do is make some predictions that others do not and see if the sightings database bears it out. Any takers?Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-54828911664566330652018-06-12T07:11:21.488-07:002018-06-12T07:11:21.488-07:00Thanks, I'll have a look at those cave systems...Thanks, I'll have a look at those cave systems. The idea that there are no caves purely based on a lack of limestone is a bit of a cop out for me.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-6473177307855113332018-06-11T05:59:34.474-07:002018-06-11T05:59:34.474-07:00Well, fairies are one thing....
I realise one can ...Well, fairies are one thing....<br />I realise one can make up whatever one wants, given hypothesis of alternative realities. But realistically ladies and gentlemen (not enough ladies I think), we have been searching for these creatures for nigh on 100 years now, with very little tangible success. I think Holiday was ahead of his time, and I fairly much know that our reality, as we understand it, is not all it seems to be. I'm not a nut job, but myself and my ex wife saw a flying object that far defied our current technology. True, it might be our technology, but something tells me it wasn't. Therefore, for me at least, there are questions to be answered. I don't lump in my sighting with the LNM, but it has certainly broadened my outlook. It was hard to take, and a culture shock, but it was there. So I believe that the reality that we see before us is part of the story, but not all. And I believe that government and the science community puts their collective head in the sand, but this does not make the unknown disappear. If we don't start using different approaches, our ancestors might be sitting here in another 100 years, no further on.<br /><br />But, on the other hand, maybe they are just flesh and blood animals that we are not very good at catching.Martin Curranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09590190801760284564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-46345126583485035952018-06-08T19:11:23.681-07:002018-06-08T19:11:23.681-07:00If anyone is interested, these are the cave system...If anyone is interested, these are the cave systems by Lake Manitoba where some people believe Manipogo hibernates. The cave system temperatures remain well above freezing in the winter, and we have really cold winters!<br />https://books.google.ca/books?id=IQKLCbdJ0GQC&pg=PA24&lpg=PA24&dq=steep+rock+manitoba+caves+environment&source=bl&ots=Xj5jpHUpZ3&sig=_LuYbmDMON3xMM4STgKuy9YQ9Tc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=o2kmU8XAJpOMyAG3hIGIDA#v=onepage&q=steep%20rock%20manitoba%20caves%20&f=falseOlrikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14519546544726111480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-56281452012984778112018-06-06T09:51:28.742-07:002018-06-06T09:51:28.742-07:00Yeah, all this doesn't sit very well with me a...Yeah, all this doesn't sit very well with me and my material world paradigm at all either. I'm more apt to believe in ghosts and fairies than creatures intruding into our reality from other dimensions. Of course all this weirdness,(UFOs, MIB, bizarre creatures etc.) if real, could all be manifestations of a Trickster phenomenon, there I go again. I think I'll go and stick my head in the sand for a while, Very disturbing.John Alvaradohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18069155979480353745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-61512372948169873282018-06-06T07:00:44.865-07:002018-06-06T07:00:44.865-07:00All this talk is outside my comfort zone. I've...All this talk is outside my comfort zone. I've always considered Nessies to be real animals and I think all the talk of parallel universes, spirit beasts and the like is based on concepts outside any known science. If you head into that sphere you can make up anything you fancy. Not the way my mind works I'm afraid.Naturewatch Enghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03062985122288755141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-71855605939248483852018-06-06T06:27:19.148-07:002018-06-06T06:27:19.148-07:00If I had to make a best guess as to what a Nessie ...If I had to make a best guess as to what a Nessie is, that would be an eel like creature both in appearance and biology. Dr. Roy Mackal's fat bodied eel comes to mind.John Alvaradohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18069155979480353745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-49583801575231554512018-06-06T02:20:32.683-07:002018-06-06T02:20:32.683-07:00If it is a permanent resident it really has to hav...If it is a permanent resident it really has to have gills or equivalent and lives around the walls/bottom of the loch away from the surface.<br /><br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-50728171012845274162018-06-06T02:18:03.096-07:002018-06-06T02:18:03.096-07:00I remember J. Allen Hynek personally appeared in C...I remember J. Allen Hynek personally appeared in Close Enconters!<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-39294690390693332832018-06-05T22:04:41.185-07:002018-06-05T22:04:41.185-07:00I too tend to believe in some aspects of the paran...I too tend to believe in some aspects of the paranormal, albeit with a grain of salt. I guess it's just human nature Roland, that when we can't find mundane explanations for the unexplained through science or common sense, we turn to the spiritual, mystical, paranormal or the supernatural for answers. But darn it, some of the weird things concerning UFOs, cryptozoology and the like is so fraught with high strangeness that it boggles the mind.John Alvaradohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18069155979480353745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-85031514620178407542018-06-04T15:28:26.265-07:002018-06-04T15:28:26.265-07:00Most available data points to a physical creature ...Most available data points to a physical creature that cannot be an air breather. It could be a carnivore, we know nothing about it's feeding habbits. Holiday suggesting it was a big mollusc isn't a bad shout given the available data. The sirenian theory is impossible. It's either that or a large newt type beast, an amphibian. It's not a plesiosaur, much as I want it to be. Unless it's a non air breathing mutation. I think, if it exists, it's likely an entirely new classification of animal. It's not a turtle, there are no reports of a shell ever. It could be a large eel but my money is on something we've never seen before. Kyle Tittertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07575714238450998417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-18688008491696721892018-06-04T15:18:16.998-07:002018-06-04T15:18:16.998-07:00Thanks John you nailed Vallee's take more succ...Thanks John you nailed Vallee's take more succinctly than I could. I believe there are aliens (in fact it's almost impossible for us to be alone) but I highly doubt they are coming here in flying saucers. I suspect that many people who go looking for the LNM and don't find anything start looking for even more out there solutions to a problem that should theoretically be resolved by current scientific methods.Kyle Tittertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07575714238450998417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-58227547991493236092018-06-04T02:20:57.515-07:002018-06-04T02:20:57.515-07:00Holiday did try to explain these things within som...Holiday did try to explain these things within some kind of natural context with the L-fields of Burr and Northurp who theorised that the micro-electric fields emitted by living cells were more a cause than effect of the cells - i.e. they had some formative effect on them rather than genetics. That theory is largely discredited by scientists, but at least Holiday did try to rationalise things.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-52830726959895775532018-06-04T02:18:12.780-07:002018-06-04T02:18:12.780-07:00I believe in paranormal phenomena, it is just that...I believe in paranormal phenomena, it is just that we lack a mechanism to explain them, unlike biological theories. I don't accept such things are para-normal or super-natural, they will come under the natural law and order of nature - even if some of those laws are as yet undiscovered.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-57705176239130164742018-06-04T02:16:19.941-07:002018-06-04T02:16:19.941-07:00Yup, a lot of stuff is being paranormalised. I won...Yup, a lot of stuff is being paranormalised. I wonder what proportion of people believe in a paranormal Nessie (or Bigfoot)?<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-51517633087149459322018-06-03T21:38:46.128-07:002018-06-03T21:38:46.128-07:00Here is an interesting recent article that mention...Here is an interesting recent article that mentions the underground cavern and river theory, albeit in Canada...<br />http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/lake-monster-manipogo-winnipogo-1.4681105Olrikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14519546544726111480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-49060084610568093682018-06-03T14:12:00.873-07:002018-06-03T14:12:00.873-07:00I'm not proposing a supernatural explanation, ...I'm not proposing a supernatural explanation, just one where an alternative reality is present. I suppose your idea is a potential, and why not?<br />I haven't studied turtles, I'm just quoting people who know more than I do, although maybe you're right. The turtle and the LNM appear to be relatively different in structure, and I do remember this trait was a problem for anyone trying to explain how it happened.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15978847580481593172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-80354133999999337862018-06-02T15:18:17.117-07:002018-06-02T15:18:17.117-07:00Perhaps Loch Ness and other locations are linked t...Perhaps Loch Ness and other locations are linked to actual "lost worlds" from subterranean caverns and tunnels with light supplied by bioluminescence that have their own ecologies where creatures occasionally venture to the surface world? We know that oceans have "rivers" and "lakes" at great depths dues to differing water densities and temperatures, and perhaps there are freshwater equivalents also. I would find this easier to believe than supernatural explanations. By the way, can't a turtle sink like a rock? Olrikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14519546544726111480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-15374971140610182712018-06-02T10:49:00.263-07:002018-06-02T10:49:00.263-07:00How about glimpses into another world where evolut...How about glimpses into another world where evolution has gone a different way? There are several instances of sightings that have elements of the inexplicable. For example, Alastair Boyd's sighting, along with his wife's, was of a large whale like object breaking the surface with a huge commotion. They turned to get the camera, turned back, and all was calm. That doesn't make sense.<br /><br />There are sightings in Morar and Ness that do not conform to one single animal. They really don't, and no amount of pushing, pulling or ignoring can square that circle.<br /><br />The absolute fear of the majority of eyewitnesses, who are clearly not in danger confuses me. Although it may not confuse me if I was there I suppose, but it's the fact that it's all encompassing, almost.<br /><br />The continuing extraordinary lack of luck observers have is yet another aspect, although this is difficult to tie in to any random event. Although it is significant. It is possible that these creatures earned their air of the supernatural in olden times for good reason. The LNM, as we understand it, also seems to have biology that does not occur anywhere else in nature. Like sinking vertically. Maybe that's just OUR nature.Martin Curranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09590190801760284564noreply@blogger.com