tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post5638991149851737060..comments2024-03-20T18:13:07.791-07:00Comments on LOCH NESS MONSTER: Nessie On Land: The Spicers StoryGlasgow Boyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comBlogger114125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-78932585168812221152017-09-07T14:28:56.422-07:002017-09-07T14:28:56.422-07:00I'm convinced that the Munro land sighting was...I'm convinced that the Munro land sighting was genuine. I was previously quite convinced and the article on this website very much strengthened my belief. I see no reason to doubt the account.Will Soutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005247829328136516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-79314065002647162432017-09-07T13:25:47.033-07:002017-09-07T13:25:47.033-07:00Munro did not claim the creature was 300 yards awa...Munro did not claim the creature was 300 yards away. She placed it near the Alt Na Dubhair stream.<br /><br />No mention of texture is made in her testimony, the immediate context mentions the colour of the skin - as stated in my article.Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-33145277582756560722017-09-07T12:26:03.522-07:002017-09-07T12:26:03.522-07:00I saw an eel come out of the water once when i was...I saw an eel come out of the water once when i was fishing, and believe me when it saw me it shifted fast.GEZZAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093032226034742612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-88766176113304829062017-09-07T05:28:06.612-07:002017-09-07T05:28:06.612-07:00If it threw up "problems", I don't r...If it threw up "problems", I don't regard it as excellent. Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-1801310497841590762017-09-06T23:11:44.902-07:002017-09-06T23:11:44.902-07:00I've been saying the same thing. This website ...I've been saying the same thing. This website could be crafted into an amazing book. I would buy a copy. The possibility of everything here one day disappearing from the internet is terrifying. Years of detailed research and effort are held here. Put my name down as a book buyer please.Will Soutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005247829328136516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-50821396221660478452017-09-06T04:52:16.335-07:002017-09-06T04:52:16.335-07:00Yes, that needs to be done in some form. The Inter...Yes, that needs to be done in some form. The Internet is great for easy resource access, but it is fickle for letting old websites go. I note Karl Shuker has done an anthology of his blog articles, perhaps something like that.<br /><br />It could end up being the biggest ever Nessie book though.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-33903570636035775712017-09-06T04:46:36.967-07:002017-09-06T04:46:36.967-07:00off topic.
how about the entire website as a book?...off topic.<br />how about the entire website as a book?johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13948846515909819569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-45399186825230041292017-09-05T01:21:17.704-07:002017-09-05T01:21:17.704-07:00My theory is that the animals leave the water at s...My theory is that the animals leave the water at shallow areas, then move on land. If one of them is seen descending a slope so steep it doesn't seem possible they climbed up it, then stop and have a think. The animal did not necessarily leave the water at the same spot. It may have left the loch at an easier point then moved unseen in the woods to the point the car driver saw the animal and startled it. That's my humble theory on this anyway. Location of sighting does not automatically mean it's the point the animal left the loch.Will Soutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005247829328136516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-89252344255515688212017-09-04T19:48:05.780-07:002017-09-04T19:48:05.780-07:00I wrote this before awhile back but since the subj...I wrote this before awhile back but since the subject of giant eels has come up on this thread I'll just state my thoughts on that once again. There's a type of eel known as neck or longneck eels where the first third of the body has a taper to it which makes it seem as if these eels have an elongated neck. My idea is that we may have an offshoot of these eels where the neck-like portion of the body has evolved into a true neck in the sense that it is capable of independent flexure from the rest of the body. In response to this adaptation the pectoral fins have shifted further down the body since they would play no useful role up behind the gills if the neck is now a true neck. These adaptations are not outlandish, if anything they're conservative and what you'd expect to happen if my scenario is a reality. Also, eel studies at Loch Ness and elsewhere have shown that as eels get bigger they increase in girth around the mid-section. So my own view as the resident LNM fence-sitter is that if there are actual unknown animals behind the hair/horse eel tales from Scotland and Ireland then a giant, thick-bellied offshoot of a neck eel with the adaptations I've just described is the most realistic candidate. Eels are capable of amphibious behavior, and what I've described could conceivably account for the Spicer and Munro land sightings. paddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08990245875787442561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-57844844686721037152017-09-04T14:46:03.384-07:002017-09-04T14:46:03.384-07:00I doubt a giant eel could have covered that distan...I doubt a giant eel could have covered that distance in the stated time.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-36082259326637309822017-09-04T14:44:40.255-07:002017-09-04T14:44:40.255-07:00It's criminal the way some sceptics twist this...It's criminal the way some sceptics twist this story to further their own agendas.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-22225348160495581832017-09-04T14:43:40.209-07:002017-09-04T14:43:40.209-07:00I agree, I know some Nessie sceptics who think thi...I agree, I know some Nessie sceptics who think this theory is overdone.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-15215510725589593382017-09-04T14:42:32.404-07:002017-09-04T14:42:32.404-07:00The "locals" are a bigger mix than what ...The "locals" are a bigger mix than what we had in the 1930s. A lot more incomers, business people, seasonal workers and those who have little ancestral connection with the area or its traditions.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-7779852741707415962017-09-04T14:35:41.586-07:002017-09-04T14:35:41.586-07:00Ain't no deer, but sceptics have to cling onto...Ain't no deer, but sceptics have to cling onto something ...Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-8689408335151312802017-09-04T09:31:19.582-07:002017-09-04T09:31:19.582-07:00A few years ago a scientist suggested that an occa...A few years ago a scientist suggested that an occasional eel might decide to stay in the loch rather than emigrate to the Sargasso Sea and subsequently grow to gigantic proportions. Wonder what happened to that research?Riittahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00296949540507134751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-9067791939197701342017-09-04T03:26:44.282-07:002017-09-04T03:26:44.282-07:00If it was big but not monsterous big i wonder if i...If it was big but not monsterous big i wonder if it could of been a big eel.I have always wondered if loch ness is home to some big eels.A very large eel out of water in the dark could look very monsterous and we know eels do come out of the water. There is a video on youtube called ' eel in new zealand' you can see by this how a large eel out of water could look like a strange monster.The drawing above does look like it could pass as a big eel.GEZZAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093032226034742612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-79156396904261123592017-09-02T23:02:29.044-07:002017-09-02T23:02:29.044-07:00there is no" imternal organ" damage natu...there is no" imternal organ" damage natural law of nature.<br />thats a skeptic contrivance!johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13948846515909819569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-88021290393736754112017-09-02T22:59:34.601-07:002017-09-02T22:59:34.601-07:00no.
i think nessie is of 3 different animals.1-a w...no.<br />i think nessie is of 3 different animals.1-a waterhorse<br />2-a waterbull ( steve plambeck and grey photo)<br />3-"horse eels"<br /><br />ogopogo may be a nothosaurus as postulated by andrew bennett who recently photographed ogo prints ( big!!) on land.<br />in addition ogo may ALSO be a basilosaurus.<br />finally ogo may ALSO be a cadborosaurus.so three different animals=ONE phenomenon.<br />of ogopogo,i think its very capable of grabbing a human a city block or more inland.<br />the footprint was to an animal of 30 feet in length.( conjecture if snakelike)johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13948846515909819569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-2819024329996538632017-09-02T05:04:29.846-07:002017-09-02T05:04:29.846-07:00It just shows how over the years the stories can g...It just shows how over the years the stories can get blown out of proportion. I was always under the impression Spicer said it was bigger. Its good to see the proper story, well done Roland.GEZZAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093032226034742612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-36691634282240326792017-08-31T14:07:14.214-07:002017-08-31T14:07:14.214-07:00Well said Paddy. I couldn't agree more.Well said Paddy. I couldn't agree more.Will Soutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005247829328136516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-40693523467338070702017-08-31T12:23:04.269-07:002017-08-31T12:23:04.269-07:00And if Spicer was influenced by King Kong - namely...And if Spicer was influenced by King Kong - namely the Diplodocus in the film - then why did he not just describe a Diplodocus? Instead, what he described was a ponderous body, a long neck-like appendage flexing into strange arches, and something flapping at the junction of neck and body. No head, no limbs, no tail. This simply doesn't make sense in terms of Spicer telling a tall-tale.<br /><br />And as for the sceptics who accept the Spicers actually did see something, but it was a case of mistaken identity, they haven't been consistent on what the animal was that the Spicers saw. Some say deer, others otter, which via heat haze transform into a large bulky mass with an elongated neck-like appendage out in front. That's quite a heat haze that can potentially morph two very different mammals into something that calls to mind for the eyewitness "a dragon or pre historic beast." <br /><br />paddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08990245875787442561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-64688241179749475002017-08-31T06:47:12.963-07:002017-08-31T06:47:12.963-07:00I doubt the monster was so popular in the highland...I doubt the monster was so popular in the highlands in 1933 as to make people see prehistoric beasts from having heard enough tales of Nessie.<br />Not every highlander believes in Loch monsters, many people around the Loch are nonbelievers and are tired of the Nessie stories. A few years back I walked around Dores, Foyers, Invermoriston, Fort Augustus, and the Drum asking locals about Nessie. Often I was received with skepticism and slight annoyance - although I spoke to a few locals who claim to believe.<br /><br />It's not a hotbed of Nessie mania up there. In 1933 the mystery was gaining momentum but far from enough to make people envision dinosaurs.<br /><br />If G. Spicer was influenced by watching King Kong into seeing a dinosaur at Loch Ness where are all the other claims from other people seeing dinosaurs around the world because they watched King Kong??Jordan Newhouse Artworkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11106532852180727936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-5091074453480040412017-08-30T13:04:09.599-07:002017-08-30T13:04:09.599-07:00John, the Inverness Courier was at best a regional...John, the Inverness Courier was at best a regional (Highlands)paper. Spicer was from London - a long way from the highlands. The notion of an unusual animal in the Loch didn't break as a national story until late in the year 1933. At the time of the Spicer sighting in July '33 there had previously only been a small handful of published reports of something odd in the Loch, with most of those sightings taking place in the Fort Augustus area, so it was more or less a local mystery. None of those published sightings described a long necked beast; usually just a hump or humps. And all those sightings were water sightings. So if Spicer was a faker why: a.) Talk about having sighted a creature on land that had previously only been seen in the water (and was presumed to be an aquatic animal or fish of some sort)? b.) Describe the creature as having a long neck when no such structure had previously been reported? c.) Describe the neck as having those rather bizarre arches when surely just a long neck would've sufficed to push it into the realm of a prehistoric beast? paddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08990245875787442561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-77775725610502064872017-08-29T15:41:57.748-07:002017-08-29T15:41:57.748-07:00Great response to this article, GB...well done!Great response to this article, GB...well done!Riittahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00296949540507134751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-67890432973196459682017-08-29T15:38:35.799-07:002017-08-29T15:38:35.799-07:00I have one image purporting to show a dark long ne...I have one image purporting to show a dark long necked creature in what looks like a forested background. Taken by a chap called Barrett I believe.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.com