tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post5263450585462206634..comments2024-03-20T18:13:07.791-07:00Comments on LOCH NESS MONSTER: Some Stories from ReadersGlasgow Boyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-49596384859171804452013-08-29T03:18:59.663-07:002013-08-29T03:18:59.663-07:00No i dont GBNo i dont GBtomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-15880203180372567302013-08-29T02:17:56.651-07:002013-08-29T02:17:56.651-07:00So you think further doctoring of the picture was ...So you think further doctoring of the picture was required?<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-85511663974035711452013-08-29T02:10:02.502-07:002013-08-29T02:10:02.502-07:00GB. I admire your enthusiasm but this is clearly a...GB. I admire your enthusiasm but this is clearly a boat wake. It comes in line with the ones coming from the far shore. I see these all the time when im fishing on loch ness. But i do add that mcnab has done a great job in taking this photograph to look like a hump ,because not many have been able to match this, and im quite sure a few people have tried.tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-64394783932829431772013-08-28T06:46:09.770-07:002013-08-28T06:46:09.770-07:00The lines have no signficance as they are always t...The lines have no signficance as they are always there on summer afternoons at loch ness. Uruqhart Bay is a major source of boat traffic. Back in 1955, I don't doubt boats passed regularly past the castle leaving their wakes.<br /><br />Refer to my MacNab article for more details.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-79642254964713276132013-08-28T06:38:27.090-07:002013-08-28T06:38:27.090-07:00I would like to add to the GODZILLA argument if i ...I would like to add to the GODZILLA argument if i may? Firstly the mcnab photo is clearly a boat wake as you can see the lines coming away from the shore above the photograph, secondly however i dont agree that these monsters ( if there are any) are that big for this loch. 25 miles is a big loch and if you ever see a normal boat ( 20-30ft) sailing down the loch from an overhead viewpoint you can see how small they are on this huge body of water.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-30772772490392064172013-08-22T01:48:15.157-07:002013-08-22T01:48:15.157-07:00Liars and hoaxers are the bane of the pro-Nessie c...Liars and hoaxers are the bane of the pro-Nessie camp. They drag down the rest of the data and provide grist for the sceptic mill.<br /><br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-64315889179252569012013-08-22T01:36:23.482-07:002013-08-22T01:36:23.482-07:00is it seriously suggested that some people may hav...is it seriously suggested that some people may have been less than truthful regarding Loch Ness?<br />my faith in human nature is diminished, you will be claiming that the nice Mr. Searle forged pictures nextPaul Danielsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-56423471365949829492013-08-20T06:26:37.153-07:002013-08-20T06:26:37.153-07:00As for Hugh Ayton, Some may be of the opinion that...As for Hugh Ayton, Some may be of the opinion that Ayton told porkies.<br /><br /><br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-64491365769142840372013-08-20T06:22:25.935-07:002013-08-20T06:22:25.935-07:00I don't know. A second opinion on droping anch...I don't know. A second opinion on droping anchors wuold be useful and of course Mr. Candlish ought to have the right of reply here.<br /><br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-25774749764093191662013-08-20T05:35:31.568-07:002013-08-20T05:35:31.568-07:00As always Mr. Raynor cuts through the speculation ...As always Mr. Raynor cuts through the speculation with common sense. Just one question re eyes did not the Hugh Ayton sighting when he sought to chase after Nessie end with him getting a view of the eye or has that sighting now been discredited?Paul Danielsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-58634750344547335382013-08-18T14:50:12.183-07:002013-08-18T14:50:12.183-07:00"We decided to drop anchor in a small cove ju..."We decided to drop anchor in a small cove just a mile or so from the castle (I can't remember its name, but it's in one of the most famous pictures of, "Nessie". We dropped anchor close to the shore and an overhanging branch. However, we kept moving away from the shorline. I could feel the anchor moving along the bottom and, when we had moved away around 150', we stopped moving."<br /><br />Hardly surprising that the anchor didn't hold, the skipper was doing it the wrong way round. Drop the anchor in deeper water so it bites into the slope, then you don't end up on the beach when the wind changes.Dick Raynorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12473656943198470075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-60079561753061015412013-08-14T16:17:46.587-07:002013-08-14T16:17:46.587-07:00ekm some years back I was reading an account by on...ekm some years back I was reading an account by one of the Vietnam War photographers who later in life was filled with revulsion he'd spent so much time over there looking for kill shots it'd never once occurred to him to stop filming and intervene while someone was preparing to execute a weeping Vietcong or help put kids on fire out instead of repositioning himself so as to ensure he had the best angle.<br /><br />The majority of people though'd be too busy helpin' out being insufficiently sociopathic to achieve true photographic greatness.<br /><br />Ditto seeing weird stuff.<br /><br />Contrary to what some'd like to believe the vast majority of witnesses to the anomalous don't spend all their time going "Oh look due to a trick of the light the Loch Ness Monster looks like a crisp packet floating across the Loch...how strange that ghost looks like a bit of wet tissue hanging from a branch...and that flying saucer looks like a piece of crumpled tinfoil glinting in the moonlight."<br /><br />What a lot of 'em actually do's more along the lines of "No way it's got'o be somethin' else it's got'o be somethin' like a half submeged bin bag or a weird lookin' fish or eel..."<br /><br />And those that don't such as I suggest the guy staring down at the eye under the water go into a sort of heightened state of consciousness which allows them to directly perceive what they're beholding without slipping into petty conceptualisation.<br /><br />In other words they're seeing more intensely than they've ever seen before but of course since such things ain't possible they therefore must be only sad nutcases.alanborkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15333017272673090593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-37245437709600244302013-08-10T15:48:00.808-07:002013-08-10T15:48:00.808-07:00Looking forward to it!Looking forward to it!ekmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-37666961544506233402013-08-10T14:35:54.083-07:002013-08-10T14:35:54.083-07:00I'll be at Loch Ness next week with my own mod...I'll be at Loch Ness next week with my own modern mobile camera to see how well it performs.<br /><br />But there are various reasons why it is not so logical as it sounds. You can reply to my logical reasoning later as I prefer to publish in an article so it gets a wider coverage to those who may be asking the same question.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-29704110015893843792013-08-10T13:33:19.219-07:002013-08-10T13:33:19.219-07:00Write as many knock-downs as you'd like. I enj...Write as many knock-downs as you'd like. I enjoy reading them. In the meantime, I'll happily eat my hat the day there is conclusive evidence of the Loch Ness Monster. Until then, analyzing old photographs to find the evidence that is curiously absent during an era when evidence ought to be piling up seems an exercise in futility. Just my two cents.ekmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-13463171400153664682013-08-10T13:31:11.504-07:002013-08-10T13:31:11.504-07:00Re: the blinking eye- in the Witchell book 2nd edi...Re: the blinking eye- in the Witchell book 2nd edition, chapter 5, he mentions Beppo the clown "went for a dive in the loch and was dragged out delirious, mumbling about 'unseen eyes' looking at him from the slimy black depths"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-38789775455212056962013-08-10T11:21:15.909-07:002013-08-10T11:21:15.909-07:00I feel another article coming on to knock down you...I feel another article coming on to knock down your arguments, Erik.<br /><br />But for now, exponentially greater? Also, have you deducted the non mobile-cameras that people used to carry/use from your calculations? You have done calculations, haven't you?<br /><br /><br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-24279862550087458452013-08-10T10:10:38.534-07:002013-08-10T10:10:38.534-07:00I don't know how to make this any clearer. Cam...I don't know how to make this any clearer. Camera access is exponentially greater now than it was during the LNM hey-day, and people take impromptu photos every day. This isn't rocket science.<br /><br />Greater camera access and less photos speaks for itself.ekmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-18499928011956006052013-08-10T07:53:37.754-07:002013-08-10T07:53:37.754-07:00ekm: I didn't " miss" your point, I ...ekm: I didn't " miss" your point, I just don't agree with it. I don't believe that people who visit loch ness are in a permanent state of alert which would enable them to cooly and calmly take out their camera and capture a definitive piece of evidence. As I said before, the distances involved are in any case likely to make that difficult if my video/camera phone is not particularly powerful.<br /><br />Obviously, if someone reported a sighting lasting a few minutes these days then you could expect a photo or video to be shot and yours would be a valid point, but if a sighting only lasts a few seconds...<br /><br />I don't buy the Funniest Home Video argument either...seems irrelevant to me.<br /><br />However, the point you make about the lack of head/neck sightings as levels of technology have increased is an interesting and valid one in my opinion... I'd be curious to know what Roland has to say about that one. <br /><br />Maybe people aren't as ready to report sightings now as they once were for fear of ridicule?Andynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-40306206396004854622013-08-09T07:22:44.484-07:002013-08-09T07:22:44.484-07:00Andy wrote:
"Many people who claim to have s...Andy wrote:<br /><br />"Many people who claim to have sightings are not "monster hunters", they're not scouring the loch for hours on end with a camera in their hand waiting for something to happen, they're just people going about their day-to-day business, or on holiday."<br /><br />You miss my point. At a place like Loch Ness, the average person is prone to be ready (subconsciously or no) to "see" the fabled Loch Ness Monster, so we have to consider that they're more prepared to take a photo. That obvious point aside, if we have:<br /><br />1) landlocked body of water, 24-26 miles long, 1-1.5 miles wide<br /><br />2) colony of large animals<br /><br />...then the obvious conclusion is that THEY WILL BE SEEN FREQUENTLY. It's not a big loch; the animals, as photographed, have to be large.<br /><br />You might argue that they surface rarely, but isn't it odd how head and neck sighting decreased dramatically as technology increased to the point where it was no longer merely the privileged minority who happened to be carrying a camera at all times...? Now we're in Hump City -- caution, Stills Only.<br /><br />Besides: we have passerbys shooting video of random freeway accidents, 911, a kid falling off a skateboard into a pile of cow poo, and all sorts of fodder for these Funniest Home Video shows. Loch Ness Monsters ought to be videoed all the time.ekmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-78323239499405670772013-08-09T05:39:57.733-07:002013-08-09T05:39:57.733-07:00The Godzilla reference relates to an ongoing argum...The Godzilla reference relates to an ongoing argument betwixt Roland and I over the (im)probability of the MacNab photo. I don't mean to suggest that all believers fall in with the idea of Loch Ness being inhabited by a creature out of a bad , rubber suit monster movie; but the MacNab photo certainly shifts the discussion in that direction.ekmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-38882052830811073372013-08-09T00:52:56.349-07:002013-08-09T00:52:56.349-07:00ekm: I honestly don't think that necessarily f...ekm: I honestly don't think that necessarily follows. Many people who claim to have sightings are not "monster hunters", they're not scouring the loch for hours on end with a camera in their hand waiting for something to happen, they're just people going about their day-to-day business, or on holiday. If the sighting occurs some distance away from the observer, a camera phone is unlikely to capture anything more than an inconclusive shape, or blob. If the sighting is brief (as many seem to be), it makes any photo or video footage close to impossible, and anything captured on film would again be at best inconclusive. <br /><br />I also think the suggestion that "believers" think there is a family of Godzillas in the loch in ludicrous...and a little condescending.Andynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-42575515172547649852013-08-08T19:09:09.683-07:002013-08-08T19:09:09.683-07:00"LNMs are NOT Godzilla sized!"
Here'..."LNMs are NOT Godzilla sized!"<br /><br />Here's a challenge for you: use those Photoshop skills of yours to depict the rest of the body/bodies in that photograph. <br /><br />"How did you come by this 'hours of footage' conclusion? What maths did you apply to reach this number?"<br /><br />You mean apart from common sense? You seem to skirt the issue at hand: as cameras/video become more accessible, we have less Loch Ness Monster evidence -- and what little we get is almost always a still image despite the fact that the recording devices most often employed (DSLRs, camera phones, etc.) come equipped with a video function. Please address this. Note also that video is always of some ambiguous hump, never a head and neck. Speaking of which, have we noticed that head and neck sightings don't seem to occur these days? Only odd shapes that are rationally explained -- no more of these GREAT WATER HORSE, PREHISTORIC MONSTER! sort of sightings like we used to get...back in the day before (most) everyone had a mobile recording device; when, you know, we just had to "take their word for it."<br /><br />"My 3gs is 3.2 megapixels with 640 × 480 video. HD ready?"<br /><br />Based on your surveillance footage, you're covered when it comes to gear. I'm awaiting the day you post your head and neck video with great anticipation.ekmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-55533923761186794542013-08-08T14:14:39.544-07:002013-08-08T14:14:39.544-07:00Hello,
The 'blinking eye' part is inter...Hello,<br /><br /> The 'blinking eye' part is interesting. It reminds me of the Kon Tiki crew member who watched a squid's eye observing him from the depths. I wonder if the blinking could possibly narrow down the list of LNM contenders? Do all creatures blink? My pick for Nessie is a very large eel, but of all the times I've caught them on hook/line, I cannot recall them blinking. ? Great blog, a daily read.<br /><br />richardrichardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-1387791090799147192013-08-08T13:35:03.307-07:002013-08-08T13:35:03.307-07:00LNMs are NOT Godzilla sized!
How did you come by ...LNMs are NOT Godzilla sized!<br /><br />How did you come by this "hours of footage" conclusion? <br /><br />What maths did you apply to reach this number?<br /><br />My 3gs is 3.2 megapixels with 640 × 480 video. HD ready?<br /><br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.com