tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post428506314488040284..comments2024-03-20T18:13:07.791-07:00Comments on LOCH NESS MONSTER: The Gordon Holmes VideoGlasgow Boyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-9100703014732913492021-05-17T19:20:28.369-07:002021-05-17T19:20:28.369-07:00Upload or Upshut ErikUpload or Upshut ErikAPMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01317472654869491086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-91870479164505174322020-06-10T18:37:05.600-07:002020-06-10T18:37:05.600-07:00I’ve never believed that this sighting is a produc...I’ve never believed that this sighting is a product of natural phenomena like the wind making a distance on the water. The movement is very consistent unlike wind hitting the waters, this object is set on a course and if this was wind why aren’t we seeing more in the Holmes video. The skeptics are really clutching at straws on this one. A.R LNEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09356600625653362477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-23404418396655606272014-05-07T13:09:24.771-07:002014-05-07T13:09:24.771-07:00Dick Raynor dispels anything to do with the creatu...Dick Raynor dispels anything to do with the creature ................that's what he s paid to do ,the Dinsdale film is a classic capture of something .yes there was a boat in the film but he filmed that to show comparisons with the swimming object ,<br />I do like Raynors and Adrian Shine,s idea of protecting what ever is in those waters ...............keep up the good work boys !<br />kikinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-77993501704212621342014-03-06T03:14:49.012-08:002014-03-06T03:14:49.012-08:00Glasgow boy great post regarding loch ness monster...Glasgow boy great post regarding loch ness monster, without a doubt Gordon holmes filmed Jeremy wades Greenland shark...invisible on sonar to according to roland Watson..interesting stuff.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02459973852414277035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-59667325844400712962014-03-06T03:03:48.820-08:002014-03-06T03:03:48.820-08:00Glasgow boy great post regarding loch ness monster...Glasgow boy great post regarding loch ness monster, without a doubt Gordon holmes filmed Jeremy wades Greenland shark...invisible on sonar to according to roland Watson..interesting stuff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-85360037566840371032013-09-18T20:35:53.244-07:002013-09-18T20:35:53.244-07:00yes thanks. but i do admit i think this holmes is ...yes thanks. but i do admit i think this holmes is video shows an animal of some sort. maybe an otter or eel.davenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-32867888773477387522013-09-17T10:37:18.505-07:002013-09-17T10:37:18.505-07:00Dave - I think GB mis-heard my comments about the ...Dave - I think GB mis-heard my comments about the cleft in the hills or perhaps misunderstood. There are several places between Drumnadrochit and Lochend where I see "unusual" surface effects - and tourists photographing them - when the wind is in the north-west; the first is where Gordon took his video - which shows 2 similar disturbances separated by ~100 metres; the second is near the Clansman Hotel,where EKM took his video, and the third is the general area from Tor Point to Aldourie Pier, viewed from the "Wellington layby".<br />Hope this helps.Dick Raynorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12473656943198470075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-46809423068577440332013-09-08T03:29:26.398-07:002013-09-08T03:29:26.398-07:00dont think it was abriachan like ekm saysdont think it was abriachan like ekm saysdavenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-66863344148826950472013-07-31T05:35:34.337-07:002013-07-31T05:35:34.337-07:00Whats that got to do with it ekm? I think we get y...Whats that got to do with it ekm? I think we get you don't believe so why do you troll these sites?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-276880241005529152013-07-23T14:22:35.748-07:002013-07-23T14:22:35.748-07:00dave: the lat & long are on my web page at htt...dave: the lat & long are on my web page at http://www.lochnessinvestigation.com/gordonholmes2007video.htm<br /><br />Regards, Dick. Dick Raynorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12473656943198470075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-43219736993317561762013-07-22T06:08:10.389-07:002013-07-22T06:08:10.389-07:00wat part of the loch was holmes video taken?wat part of the loch was holmes video taken?davenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-17472074315072471932013-07-21T16:55:32.431-07:002013-07-21T16:55:32.431-07:00Facts and figures paint the picture, my anonymous ...Facts and figures paint the picture, my anonymous friend.ekmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-60122560565754244292013-07-20T14:57:06.404-07:002013-07-20T14:57:06.404-07:00GB in the video of the alligators I was struck by ...GB in the video of the alligators I was struck by how minimally the first alligator disturbed the water until it started heading towards the second 'gator whereupon the water became more and more agitated the closer the two got.<br /><br />I found myself wond'ring therefore if this was related in anyway to the behaviour of social spiders which're spiders able to share the same web without cannibalising each other due to the particular point they make in approaching each other of making dramatic highly noticeable displays quite similar to the attacking prey display but at the crucial moment instead of pouncing leaving themselves hanging in the air completely vulnerable to counterattack and predation.<br /><br />In fact if they fail to perform this manoeuvre outbreaks of aggression can occur resulting in mortalities until things calm back down.<br /><br />My point being maybe the same applies to Nessie any exaggerated water disturbance might not be for the benefit of tourists so to speak but some as yet invisible companion in which case that might be precisely the very time to start scanning further and further out from and around the disturbed water rather than merely concentrating on the spot where the disturbance's actually occurring.alanborkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15333017272673090593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-50376260786331970652013-07-20T08:06:56.684-07:002013-07-20T08:06:56.684-07:00Glasgow boy, here is a question you may be able to...Glasgow boy, here is a question you may be able to shed some light upon. While in Foyers on vacation I came across a local man who told me while conducting military exercises during WW2 divers encountered large eels in the loch. Apparently too large to be swimming nearby and this drove them from the water. Also, I was told about a massive eel trapped within the Foyers hydro electrical dam which I had heard of this elsewhere. Are these stories just Nessie folklore ?? Have you heard of either one of these occurring ? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-230530906782529082013-07-20T01:25:08.339-07:002013-07-20T01:25:08.339-07:00I have done.
Unfortunately he's a Nessie "...I have done.<br />Unfortunately he's a Nessie "debunker".<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-89679157347440247562013-07-19T18:36:05.526-07:002013-07-19T18:36:05.526-07:00Did he also show you his DVD on faeries? :)Did he also show you his DVD on faeries? :)ekmhttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt1294794/combinednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-33308267916728767402013-07-19T16:32:50.268-07:002013-07-19T16:32:50.268-07:00Interesting observations, Steve. I too noted the f...Interesting observations, Steve. I too noted the fleeting and apparent head-neck frames. Haven't really probed that oen further.<br /><br />I bumped into Gordon Holmes at the Nessie at 80 symposium. He showed us all his video during a break. I wish I had spent more time speaking to him. It is valuable to communicate with witnesses. Something sceptics certainly don't prize.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-87088896197273853192013-07-19T15:06:13.862-07:002013-07-19T15:06:13.862-07:00Belated congrats on 3 years of doing this Roland!
...Belated congrats on 3 years of doing this Roland!<br /><br />These stabilised Appleton videos are very useful (I too only paid passing attention to the Holmes film before. My tactic is to always let someone else do all the hard work first, and then play armchair analyst :)<br /><br />That being said, anyone should find it extremely interesting to load this into Animation Shop or an equivalent and run it manually frame by frame. I used the lil_fast_nessie.gif file provided here, so these frame numbers specifically refer to that version.<br /><br />Start with it on frame 36, which is near that point where the "hump" seems most distinct. Click forward from 36 through 44 and I believe you'll see what I see: a blunt head is rising upwards and clearing the water during these 9 frames. There are actually what I'd call very slight brow ridges or eye sockets on top of the head visible during frames 37, 38 & 39. It looks very similar the profile of an otter. It could still be the head of an eel though, or a salamander. Scale would certainly be helpful here.<br /><br />Observe the head reaches its highest point in frame 44. It then slams *downwards* in frames 48 and 49, and it is exactly during frame 49 that the second object emerges to the left, in the path of the moving head. Note also this neck-like object is *not* moving right to left during the next couple frames, but is being closed upon by the larger, speeding object. This would be a fish jumping. There is some foam thrown up between the objects during frames 46-49. The fish thrashes, briefly appears joined to the head of the bigger object, *then* begins to move with it during the subsequent frames. This smaller object is a fish in the process of being scooped up, and the undulating neck-like part is really its desperately wriggling tail. During frames 60-64 we have the illusion of a single long-necked animal, but during frames 64-69 the head of the predator turns a bit to it's left, now ahead of the fish tail which must be extruding from the right corner of its mouth. At frame 70, the meal has been dragged under, but we can still see the larger animal continuing on its course from right to left, just below the surface for a few more frames. The head begins to rise again at frame 116, but does not completely emerge. Instead, we see the torpedo wake of something smaller, what must be a second fish racing out of its path.<br /><br />Scale would certainly be useful in diagnosing the identity of the predator. But relative to the size of the fish being taken down, it does appear more likely to be an otter. Unless of course that was a really large fish.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Steve Plambeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09651489411808346005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-71537068591851512982013-07-19T11:04:49.566-07:002013-07-19T11:04:49.566-07:00Examine his analysis before you lock your mind and...Examine his analysis before you lock your mind and throw away the key. The synoptic Gospels don't line up, either!ekmhttp://roulettefilm.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-34905037249151835762013-07-19T08:46:36.324-07:002013-07-19T08:46:36.324-07:00It's obvious the Gordon Holmes video shows som...It's obvious the Gordon Holmes video shows some animal swimming. The question is what is it?.<br />Dick Raynor is a Nessie debunker, he also says the Tim Dinsdale film actually shows a boat ???, so I don't care what he says.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-17092853931069543692013-07-19T08:26:03.313-07:002013-07-19T08:26:03.313-07:00I don't want to add to the pile of "ambig...I don't want to add to the pile of "ambiguous images" with something I'm certain isn't worthy of deep analytical debate! :)ekmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-65742704472368518072013-07-19T07:25:59.419-07:002013-07-19T07:25:59.419-07:00Where's the beef!Where's the beef!<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-37835226326660940732013-07-19T07:25:24.733-07:002013-07-19T07:25:24.733-07:00Yeak EKM, upload the video!Yeak EKM, upload the video!David Gregoryhttps://www.facebook.com/TheGreatLochNessMonsterDebatenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-55735170382634416562013-07-19T05:47:52.662-07:002013-07-19T05:47:52.662-07:00I smell a challenge!I smell a challenge!ekmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-68178016408087257372013-07-19T05:46:46.877-07:002013-07-19T05:46:46.877-07:00Erik, it's all a bit "academic" unti...Erik, it's all a bit "academic" until we all see how similar your clip is to the Holmes video.<br /><br /><br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.com