tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post396831411704231381..comments2024-03-20T18:13:07.791-07:00Comments on LOCH NESS MONSTER: Snaring the MonsterGlasgow Boyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-81792935572359647812019-12-08T13:32:05.516-08:002019-12-08T13:32:05.516-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10495416725083433268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-82051272271825213722019-01-10T22:37:40.445-08:002019-01-10T22:37:40.445-08:00I may be wrong, but I think I read it in one of Ti...I may be wrong, but I think I read it in one of Tim Dinsdales later books.John Alvaradohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18069155979480353745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-30548557156917328692018-12-13T03:03:31.247-08:002018-12-13T03:03:31.247-08:00Fish??? I always thouht it was a species like a sl...Fish??? I always thouht it was a species like a slug or that type! Just done some research on it and ur right...scoentists now believe it was a type of fish like a lamprey!!!!! Hmmmm ur right.ma fish with a neck????? Opens up a new can of worms lol..ive always said there are strange looking things out there we havnt foound and things that can suprise us...always felt that despite the mocking that mr holiday was going down the right road..especially in days of nessie bin a plesiosaur!!! Great mystery....cheers RoyROYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07593737226241908577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-61652004717874363202018-12-12T11:34:30.310-08:002018-12-12T11:34:30.310-08:00Alrite paddy..the reports ive read including dinsd...Alrite paddy..the reports ive read including dinsdales said they wer dark grey in colour not brown! Cheers RoyROYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07593737226241908577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-46327115147022521632018-12-12T06:24:04.541-08:002018-12-12T06:24:04.541-08:00Fair enough Gez, the critters may have been little...Fair enough Gez, the critters may have been little Nessies or they may have been otters. We just don't know. Regarding the lizard-like description, we have to remember that these were schoolboys, not wildlife biologists, so their familiarity with otters can be called into question. And to this Nessie fence-sitter the much-maligned (at least on this blog) Ronald Binns does get some mileage out of his discussion of otter's appearance being somewhat reptilian, at least in genral form. <br />So, given that: a.) Otters do more or less meet the description given by the schoolboys. b.) Otters do inhabit Loch Ness. c.) Evidence for the existence of Nessies remains at best ambiguous, then, regarding this sighting if I was a betting man and had $100 to bet I'd put $70 on otters, $15 on little Nessies, and buy a few pints with the last $15. paddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08990245875787442561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-52759636740982346622018-12-12T00:42:03.551-08:002018-12-12T00:42:03.551-08:00Good points Paddy, but if the boys described them ...Good points Paddy, but if the boys described them as lizard like i dont think they would have been otters.GEZZAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093032226034742612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-13465676885210347282018-12-11T12:55:58.329-08:002018-12-11T12:55:58.329-08:00Regarding the sighting by the two schoolboys of th...Regarding the sighting by the two schoolboys of the alleged mini-Nessies, the skeptical opinion is that the mini-Nessies were likely otters. And if we're honest then we have to admit that otters do more or less fit the description given by the schoolboys: 3' long, 4 rudimentary limbs, brownish in color with definite necks. <br /><br />Regarding the Tullymonstrum, that was Ted Holiday's candidate.<br /><br />Regarding reptiles being egg layers and not being cold tolerant, it is now recognized that at least some plesiosaurs were cold tolerant, gave birth to live young one 'pup' at a time and were apparently nurturers as parents. I'll add that in Lake Norman NC they've extracted alligators - and this lake was previously thought to be too far north for reptiles to tolerate. paddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08990245875787442561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-4998904048298932332018-12-10T12:56:37.480-08:002018-12-10T12:56:37.480-08:00Great work Roy, thanks. I suppose everybody has to...Great work Roy, thanks. I suppose everybody has to make up their own mind on sightings or opinions. I would also like to add that so called experts in the subject are not as expert as they make out so have your own mind.Roy was told by Tony Harmsworth that his tullymonstrum could not live in fresh water but now new evidence says that it was actually a fish so that puts his opinion out of the water( pardon the pun)Be careful what you believe in guys.GEZZAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093032226034742612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-49150911698326057292018-12-09T16:21:38.408-08:002018-12-09T16:21:38.408-08:00That does indeed make for a credible case, crucial...That does indeed make for a credible case, crucial info obtained. Documented names and involvement of Cyril Dieckoff give the school boys sighting validity. <br />I was skeptical but now I stand corrected, thanks Roy for this information. If these were mini nessies after all I wonder how many times they appeared on sonar and were passed off as resident fish...Jordan Newhouse Artworkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11106532852180727936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-45490181941391870482018-12-09T15:59:42.872-08:002018-12-09T15:59:42.872-08:00Interesting comments near the end:"...finally...Interesting comments near the end:"...finally confirming rumours of the species that had been circulating for decades. “It was surreal to see after years of talking about this creature — it was kind of a mystical, mythical beast,” researcher David Steen tells The Revelator. “It’s so unlike most other creatures that we share the planet with.”<br /><br />“It lives in...mud,”.hopkarmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04721458738337150295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-13242027169349378802018-12-09T14:35:06.312-08:002018-12-09T14:35:06.312-08:00Great read Olrik...cheers! Proof that sum things c...Great read Olrik...cheers! Proof that sum things can remain unseen! Another sceptic theory is if there is an unusual creature in loch ness then why only loch ness?? Well the taylor salamander is in one lake only in mexico and the gwyniad in one lake only in north wales...so why not ....ROYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07593737226241908577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-57218094050128038402018-12-09T10:42:43.554-08:002018-12-09T10:42:43.554-08:00Jack D ive just read up further on the schoolboys ...Jack D ive just read up further on the schoolboys sighting and constance whyte has mentioned this sighting in her book...and the boys names wer known.. they wer a A Smith and anthony considine and they wer interviewed separately by the monk Dom Cyril Dieckoff who said both stories wer exactly the same.....hope that helps..cheers RoyROYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07593737226241908577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-40209188153706155702018-12-09T02:24:29.992-08:002018-12-09T02:24:29.992-08:00Viviparous lizard??? Good shout Jack! Mad how some...Viviparous lizard??? Good shout Jack! Mad how some reptiles can live in the cold and great how they have adapted ova the years! Going back to the schoolboys yeah i think dinsdale did speak to sumone and it was two trustworthy monks who intervied them and said they wer happy they wer telling the truth..though of course they cud of bin mistaken....big eels maybe??? But they did describe them as having a neck and thicker body! Im not saying the boys saw three baby nessies i ws just giving the account of a sighting of small ones cus someone asked...and i new id read it in one of my books so looked it up...cheerrsROYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07593737226241908577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-81796244052628059752018-12-08T20:24:47.002-08:002018-12-08T20:24:47.002-08:00Of course young ones would help explain why not ev...Of course young ones would help explain why not every sighting is of the same size (or even color) animal...<br />hopkarmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04721458738337150295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-74729556160074081842018-12-08T20:15:55.498-08:002018-12-08T20:15:55.498-08:00Following up - wrong Dan. Was it Dan Greenburg'...Following up - wrong Dan. Was it Dan Greenburg's Something's There? I have not hit the stacks, it finally came to me correctly.<br />hopkarmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04721458738337150295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-43937361383988755382018-12-08T20:12:17.008-08:002018-12-08T20:12:17.008-08:00I think I know the book you are thinking. I want t...I think I know the book you are thinking. I want to say it is by Dan Jenkins, but I can find nothing about this. The book mentions Boleskine House too, and the author was trying to get a "wizard" to do some magic. I (used to?) have this book - I am going to look through the stacks now...<br />hopkarmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04721458738337150295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-51990915359708270852018-12-08T19:44:41.921-08:002018-12-08T19:44:41.921-08:00New creatures that inspire "monster" leg...New creatures that inspire "monster" legends are still being discovered by science, so the same can apply to Loch Ness...<br />https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/scientists-solved-a-decades-old-swamp-monster-mystery-in-florida/ar-BBQFnGb?ocid=spartandhpOlrikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14519546544726111480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-19192957903426046302018-12-08T13:48:25.155-08:002018-12-08T13:48:25.155-08:00The schoolkids could have easily been mistaken lik...The schoolkids could have easily been mistaken like so many people believing waves are humps. How old were these kids at the time of their sighting?, did Dinsdale speak to the monks the children told their story to? Compare that account to Finlay, Fr Brusey, Brock Badger, Rines, Boyd accounts. Those are valid sightings, two schoolkids in 1937 is as good as " a guy told me he saw Nessie ..actually his friend saw Nessie "Jordan Newhouse Artworkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11106532852180727936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-22187148972070307072018-12-08T11:36:13.195-08:002018-12-08T11:36:13.195-08:00Why does everybody assume that people are lying? W...Why does everybody assume that people are lying? Why cant the schoolkids have been telling the truth?GEZZAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093032226034742612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-72742220721269252282018-12-08T10:43:57.445-08:002018-12-08T10:43:57.445-08:00Lets throw in another spanner in the works,the duc...Lets throw in another spanner in the works,the duck billed platypus,mammal that lays eggs.I agree that all animals can spring a suprise or two.GEZZAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093032226034742612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-48333427558069287882018-12-08T10:42:35.242-08:002018-12-08T10:42:35.242-08:00There is one species of lizard native to Scotland ...There is one species of lizard native to Scotland that does give birth to live young, the viviparous lizard. They only reach 10-11 inches in length at max. So yeah it is possible for such a reptile to survive the cold of Northern Scotland on land but these lizards are not living in the Loch. Terrapins can survive the Loch temperature year round but are they native to Northern Scotland? <br />The odds of unknown reptiles inhabiting Loch Ness - lizards in Loch Ness are very low, I doubt it highly. An amphibian could call Loch Ness home because they do, mammals could thrive but would be easily detected. <br />If those schoolboys from 1937 had names and had been interviewed by Dinsdale or C. Whyte for the record it would be easier to accept but this kind of sighting is as good as make believe. Children can be more honest than adults and better eyewitnesses because of their honesty but also children can have wild imaginations. With talk of a huge monster lurking in the Loch any schoolboy would be thrilled to roam the shoreline searching for monsters. Nobody knows these eyewitnesses so there is zero credibility here. Jordan Newhouse Artworkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11106532852180727936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-84516030662487020692018-12-08T07:03:16.202-08:002018-12-08T07:03:16.202-08:00Well we do av a few reptiles who give birth to li...Well we do av a few reptiles who give birth to live young <br />and some who carry the eggs inside them so this is possible!! And as mentioned before sum reptiles can live in the cold including terrapins who have survived actually in the very cold british winters in lakes and ponds!! Nothing wud suprise me and reptiles and amphibians can suprisingly adapt when we thought they cudnt...RoyROYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07593737226241908577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-78588529102646071092018-12-07T17:59:26.741-08:002018-12-07T17:59:26.741-08:00If the loch monsters are reptiles once the clutch ...If the loch monsters are reptiles once the clutch is born they are on their own, they would hatch from eggs making them vulnerable to birds,fish,eels, and more. They would not have a guardian - mammals on the other hand would have a big big mama protecting them if they are mammalian. Spawning grounds for a variety of fish but nobody knows the nature of nessie. If nessie gives birth to live young they would not appear lizard like most likely. Unless she is a big lizard looking animal...which she sometimes is according to some. The cold temperatures guarantee they can't be reptilian animals though.Jordan Newhouse Artworkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11106532852180727936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-24656999026342964672018-12-07T14:28:44.108-08:002018-12-07T14:28:44.108-08:00Thinking about it, the Loch would be a pretty safe...Thinking about it, the Loch would be a pretty safe place for spawning and the subsequent maturing of young beasties. Perhaps this is what happens when the LNM is ready to reproduce. It may only happen once in a blue moon and may not be the only place that such a thing may take place.Pete (original)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06459779390993994285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-54774602067038899362018-12-07T09:44:55.341-08:002018-12-07T09:44:55.341-08:00Not many seals get into the loch, maybe one or two...Not many seals get into the loch, maybe one or two per year but dont stay long plus they dont go down that deep.And for me a smaller nessie would be too big for an eel.GEZZAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093032226034742612noreply@blogger.com