tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post3886855334967577322..comments2024-03-20T18:13:07.791-07:00Comments on LOCH NESS MONSTER: Constance Whyte's other book on the Loch Ness MonsterGlasgow Boyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-19560921770910531632018-01-01T07:52:40.783-08:002018-01-01T07:52:40.783-08:00Everything you just said.Everything you just said.ekmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09919739097113214608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-51816617634307231232018-01-01T07:52:19.501-08:002018-01-01T07:52:19.501-08:00Definitely check out "A Monstrous Commotion,&...Definitely check out "A Monstrous Commotion," where Dinsdale's breathless hyperbole (evident in his own writings) is confirmed as being somewhat off-putting in real life. His near-harassment of the Queen was news to me prior to reading about it!ekmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09919739097113214608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-63180664747158169642017-12-30T13:41:25.220-08:002017-12-30T13:41:25.220-08:00A Monstrous Commotion covers it extremely well if ...A Monstrous Commotion covers it extremely well if you can get yer hands on a copy. Dinsdale comes across as incredibly passionate but too full on. Personally I think he was awesome and I love that fact he only claimed 2 further partial sightings. It lends credibility to his film and his own integrity even if you think the film is a boat. Though I remember reading one of his books as a lad and thinking it was a bit lightweight. Kyle Tittertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07575714238450998417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-50218215133094772172017-12-30T06:47:17.302-08:002017-12-30T06:47:17.302-08:00I dont rule out air breathers myself, there are a ...I dont rule out air breathers myself, there are a few animals that breathe air that have also adapted to taking in oxygen through their skin.Not likely maybe, but possible.GEZZAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093032226034742612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-53950280544425810772017-12-30T05:06:56.395-08:002017-12-30T05:06:56.395-08:00Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't aware t...Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't aware that Whyte was unimpressed by Tim Dinsdale. Sorry to be a pain, but does anyone have a link to something which goes into that in more depth? It seems strange that she'd feel that way, given his championing of her book. I do wonder which aspects of Mr Dinsdale's behaviour caused her concern.Will Soutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005247829328136516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-56911307749550035012017-12-30T01:18:29.619-08:002017-12-30T01:18:29.619-08:00Good old Roland, we can always rely on you to get ...Good old Roland, we can always rely on you to get the facts right.GEZZAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093032226034742612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-61375917897680580252017-12-29T19:42:20.385-08:002017-12-29T19:42:20.385-08:00No, you misinterpreted (or I wasn’t clear). She wa...No, you misinterpreted (or I wasn’t clear). She walked away from the mystery and refused to update her book (opening the door for Witchell) because she was, as Roland says, disenchanted with James, Dinsdale, and the rest. She dumped her research into a suitcase and there it remained until her daughter passed it on to Witchell.<br /><br />But she remained a believer until the end, so far as we know.ekmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09919739097113214608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-64311486339658810392017-12-29T17:52:10.525-08:002017-12-29T17:52:10.525-08:00I've read some of the LNIB annual reports. I t...I've read some of the LNIB annual reports. I thought they were very well put together, erring on the overly positive on the interpretation of the evidence but will presented and professional. I'm sure there were some nutters in their ranks and that many aspects were unprofessional but it certainly led to highly professional and well organised searches in later years by former members. And compared to the level of organisation nowadays... well, it's not really comparable is it? It's basically Steve Feltham, Rolland, some of the posters on here... and me when I can drag my girlfriend there every 2 or 3 years, seriously throwing my relationship into jeopardy every time. I used to take an old GF there too when i was a student but she was smart enough to dump me. <br /><br />Not read More Than A Legend but it's clear Whyte had a very smart take on it. I like that she offers no solutions (Gould's mistake for which he was attacked for). I personally give the land sightings zero credibility either as they are completely anomalous to all other reported behaviour but I still love reading about them. It simply cannot be an air breather or we'd see it often - and if it comes onto land it would be found quickly too - particularly if there's a breeding colony. Or... and I concede this is a possibility... there was one single unusual animal which died in the 50s/60s or sometime before. <br /><br />PS A Monstrous Commotion is an absolute masterpiece in my opinion. Kyle Tittertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07575714238450998417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-39324317004166868072017-12-29T12:45:23.861-08:002017-12-29T12:45:23.861-08:00It was the age of the hippies after all. Probably ...It was the age of the hippies after all. Probably mostly students getting up to all sorts while 'experimenting' in ways their post-war parents would disapprove of. I also doubt there was anything like the level of diligence implied by those serious-looking camera stations and LNIB vans.Will Soutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005247829328136516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-22769102719742405222017-12-29T12:38:24.475-08:002017-12-29T12:38:24.475-08:00Thank you Roland, that clears it up. I think Erik ...Thank you Roland, that clears it up. I think Erik Kristopher Myers was implying some big turnaround in Constance's views about the Loch Ness animals. It would appear that either I misinterpreted what Erik Kristopher was saying, or he was wrong.Will Soutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005247829328136516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-11328019894333426772017-12-29T11:45:36.824-08:002017-12-29T11:45:36.824-08:00See my above comments. I would love to see the rea...See my above comments. I would love to see the real truth behind the LNIB's surveillance. The impression given is that it was a well oiled machine ruthlessly and dispassionately surveying every square inch of the loch.<br /><br />Given the vissisitudes of human nature, I suspect the truth is closer to chaos than order.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-31130870472260877342017-12-29T11:43:23.269-08:002017-12-29T11:43:23.269-08:00I just went back over "Monstrous Commotion&qu...I just went back over "Monstrous Commotion". I think Whyte was a believer in the monster to the very end. What she was disenchanted with and turned her back on was the LNIB and James putting publicity and money above proper research.<br /><br />Whyte to Scott in 1976: ‘the denial by the zoological establishment of facts that are beyond argument is a disservice to the cause of TRUTH’<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-11428152757613536522017-12-29T07:55:38.988-08:002017-12-29T07:55:38.988-08:00When you say 'turned her back on the mystery&#...When you say 'turned her back on the mystery' I don't really know what you mean. Did she just not write another book on it, or are you saying she actively turned against the notion of the existence of the animals? Those are two very different things so I'd be delighted to receive some further information.Will Soutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005247829328136516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-52032652235407189232017-12-29T07:36:51.852-08:002017-12-29T07:36:51.852-08:00Fascinating read. Many thanks, GB. Happy New Year ...Fascinating read. Many thanks, GB. Happy New Year to all!Chasing Leviathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05223736357748655145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-26348700131986295212017-12-29T04:25:21.445-08:002017-12-29T04:25:21.445-08:00Great read, Roland, and excellent find. I wish tha...Great read, Roland, and excellent find. I wish that Whyte had followed up her earlier work with a reappraisal ofnthe information once she became disenchanted by James, Dinsdale, Rines, et al. The fact that she turned her back on the mystery is interesting, particularly since she was so key in its mainstream resurgence.<br /><br />Happy New Year, and thanks for the read!ekmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09919739097113214608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-13663151751084840622017-12-28T11:35:52.040-08:002017-12-28T11:35:52.040-08:00I love reading this topic. If I could have had a p...I love reading this topic. If I could have had a pint with Tim Dinsdale, Bob Rines, Constance Whyte, Ted Holiday, Edward Mountain, or some of the classic sighting witnesses like Father Gregory, Greta Finley, or Bob Badger I would be foaming at the mouth with interest!<br />I don't know much about the early era of Nessie searching 1933-1953 or so, I'm aware of Constance Whyte but have not read her books. This was great to read, thanks Roland!<br />Winnifred Carey would be another person of interest to talk Nessie for me, repeated sightings would be a gold mine.<br />Jordan Newhouse Artworkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11106532852180727936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-37640848519456229062017-12-26T16:49:40.355-08:002017-12-26T16:49:40.355-08:00Great Christmas gift, Roland. Thank you. And Happy...Great Christmas gift, Roland. Thank you. And Happy New Year to all.bfjordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04526164970021554937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-28421267428006527292017-12-26T15:57:24.463-08:002017-12-26T15:57:24.463-08:00What an awesome Crimble pressie! I have mangaged t...What an awesome Crimble pressie! I have mangaged to aquire a copy of Whyte's book, but thought I'd never ever see this one. Thanks!hopkarmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04721458738337150295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-6591312832133363362017-12-26T00:40:57.927-08:002017-12-26T00:40:57.927-08:00I echo Riitta's sentiments - think you kindly ...I echo Riitta's sentiments - think you kindly for the article and a happy new year to all when it arrives! Keep on hunting...Will Soutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005247829328136516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-52492584764835151892017-12-25T03:36:31.524-08:002017-12-25T03:36:31.524-08:00Thank you so much for this account, Roland...absol...Thank you so much for this account, Roland...absolutely fascinating. Also, thank you, David for the Latin translation. Merry Christmas to all this blog's readers.Riittahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00296949540507134751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-86759004428364622562017-12-24T17:19:30.352-08:002017-12-24T17:19:30.352-08:00Looking forward to reading this, and a happy Chris...Looking forward to reading this, and a happy Christmas to you too.Martin Curranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09590190801760284564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-36606875145596342582017-12-24T16:18:38.301-08:002017-12-24T16:18:38.301-08:00Fascinating, typically tough to track down article...Fascinating, typically tough to track down article. Constance Whyte really is the Godmother to the creature in the modern era. Knew you'd dig deep for Chrimbo. And on that note... <br /><br />Merry Xmas to Glasgow Boy and everyone who contributes to this blog!Kyle Tittertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07575714238450998417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-71139361842793487162017-12-24T12:42:36.592-08:002017-12-24T12:42:36.592-08:00The Latin at the end is interesting. Referring to ...The Latin at the end is interesting. Referring to Loch Tay, it says "In that lake are three wonders:<br />A floating island<br />Fish without intestines<br />Waves without wind."<br />The list is very like one from Loch Lomond <br />http://lochnessmystery.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/ad-1658-floating-island-of-loch-ness.html<br />except that where Loch Lomond has fish without fins, Loch Tay has fish without intestines. Does anyone know what that might mean?David Evanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13590531184544289491noreply@blogger.com