tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post342573077709758065..comments2024-03-20T18:13:07.791-07:00Comments on LOCH NESS MONSTER: Classic Sightings - Robert BadgerGlasgow Boyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-44897365386623038102020-07-31T18:18:22.297-07:002020-07-31T18:18:22.297-07:00GB, without any doubt you’re work and research is ...GB, without any doubt you’re work and research is top quality, thank you for sharing these accounts and keeping many updated. <br /><br />The Robert Badger experience is definitely in my top five for Nessie sightings. I completely agree with what’s being said in regards to Nessie possibly spending more time within shallow waters but deep enough to avoid detection. It really does make sense and could explain a lot of these 'close encounters' only yards away from the shoreline. <br /><br />It would be interesting to explore more of these accounts and place them alongside the sightings where Nessie is further away towards the centre of the Loch. If you compare the two we might find that we’ve been searching in the wrong area after all this time. <br /><br />Adrian Shine and project deepscan focused more in the deeper locations rather than the shallows and again this might explain the lack of sonar hits. A.R LNEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09356600625653362477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-78319052912454748112017-08-09T06:23:32.485-07:002017-08-09T06:23:32.485-07:00I haven't looked into that, do you have scans ...I haven't looked into that, do you have scans for those FT letters?<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-33125638277569822172017-08-08T09:30:51.719-07:002017-08-08T09:30:51.719-07:00Great article, I originally started trying to look...Great article, I originally started trying to look into diving encounters after reading a letter in Fortean Times, it was featured in FT 212 (July 2006). The letter, entitled ‘Loch Ness Eels’, was a response by Mike Dash to an earlier letter from FT 208. Dash writes about a story in which a diver is looking for a car wreck in Loch Ness, apparently “…the diver found the vehicle on a ledge 80ft down and surfaced babbling about giant eels, the size of a man’s body, hundreds of them!”In one version of the story the diver’s hair went white and the man became insane due to what he saw. I was wondering if you managed to gather any further information on the 1970s Michael MacRae encounter? All the best, JohnKadash 742https://www.blogger.com/profile/07937825000626759856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-74034358655746124002016-05-24T16:37:32.987-07:002016-05-24T16:37:32.987-07:00The frog type sighting is significant I think, and...The frog type sighting is significant I think, and pulls the morphology away from the classic lake monster form.<br />As for Mr Badger's account, terrifying, in a word. I can't really imagine how he saw what he did, especially if the water is so peat stained, ie how would one be able to ascertain any kind of size without points if reference and a severe visual handicap (the peat)?. However it certainly seems that he saw what he saw, and I don't doubt his story for a moment. Martin Curranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09590190801760284564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-7352161391001104212014-10-21T13:31:54.081-07:002014-10-21T13:31:54.081-07:00Also he wasn't in 15-20 ft of water,he was ove...Also he wasn't in 15-20 ft of water,he was over the drop off in deep water @20 ft below the surface.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-74205281889928566392013-06-12T19:33:29.182-07:002013-06-12T19:33:29.182-07:00In my opinion, one of the many eye-witness account...In my opinion, one of the many eye-witness accounts that can't be debunked! Quite a terrifying encounter actually and I bet his sleep was troubled for some time afterwards as a result. David Gregoryhttps://www.facebook.com/TheGreatLochNessMonsterDebatenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-78667038930956310672012-06-20T13:42:05.743-07:002012-06-20T13:42:05.743-07:00How about an amphibious type fish?How about an amphibious type fish?Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-18929243839683456582012-06-20T11:59:39.427-07:002012-06-20T11:59:39.427-07:00Well, I have now come to the conclusion that a gia...Well, I have now come to the conclusion that a giant, long-necked, neotenous amphibian would probably be the best candidate, for the Loch Ness Monster. However, there is still just one problem, for the amphibian theory. And that is the fact that amphibians cannot live in saltwater. And the first Loch Ness Monsters must have swam into Loch Ness, back when it was still an arm of the ocean, during the last Ice Age.Troodon Roarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06458650924508744077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-38977425452375006122012-04-14T18:12:45.193-07:002012-04-14T18:12:45.193-07:00great work , i just came across this and love thes...great work , i just came across this and love these sightings. im from niagara falls and spent 10 days on loch ness two years back. i met adrian shine and a nessie eye witness named dave monroe of foyers, steve feltham was away. keep the good work coming !! cheers ! jordanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-14817951986928374602012-02-10T19:32:29.076-08:002012-02-10T19:32:29.076-08:00nessie looks like a frog but bessie and no name lo...nessie looks like a frog but bessie and no name look like a giant tadpole-trust ive done my research with my friends at schoolshanianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-78071353265439442542012-02-10T19:26:19.589-08:002012-02-10T19:26:19.589-08:00you are crazy if you dont think they are real-i mi...you are crazy if you dont think they are real-i might be 10 but they are realshanianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-1782362259336513082012-02-08T06:35:21.155-08:002012-02-08T06:35:21.155-08:00I still don't believe that this monster exists...I still don't believe that this monster exists. The Loch Ness is a wonderful place for holidays, though. It offers great landscapes and opportunities for adventurous activities.hotels in Corbyhttp://hamptoninn.hilton.co.uk/corbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-10232801121042771122012-01-31T07:06:44.468-08:002012-01-31T07:06:44.468-08:00No problem, did your Dad add anything else to this...No problem, did your Dad add anything else to this story?Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-29109759455391951342012-01-31T06:52:16.438-08:002012-01-31T06:52:16.438-08:00Hi Everyone, great to read about Beppo the Clown ...Hi Everyone, great to read about Beppo the Clown from Stafford uk. He is my Dad who sadly died in 1993.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-89105053692860345692012-01-30T11:42:13.634-08:002012-01-30T11:42:13.634-08:00So many extinct amphibian candidates though. For ...So many extinct amphibian candidates though. For example, flip the jpg of this beastie 180 degress: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balanerpeton. Then put it next to the zoomed-in Heron-Allen version of the Hugh Gray photo. Amazing similarity (except for the buggy frog eyes of course). But then Nessie's eyes might well have atrophied for lack of use in the dark waters of Loch Ness. By the way, I'm still assimilating your intriguing analysis of the Gray photo, and the revelation the head was there all the time - great stuff!Steve Plambeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09651489411808346005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-80366037468462236842012-01-30T00:43:21.745-08:002012-01-30T00:43:21.745-08:00Yes, I also believe Gould was into newts! But then...Yes, I also believe Gould was into newts! But then the plesiosaur arrived to swallow all contenders. I think the amphibian theory has a lot of merit but it would be unlike any amphibian science knows about.Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-44224365253774388382012-01-29T16:19:49.025-08:002012-01-29T16:19:49.025-08:00Ah - found it! The 1975 paperback of Witchell, pa...Ah - found it! The 1975 paperback of Witchell, pages 17 and 18. But my memory went astray, as it indeed says "frog" and agrees with your text. It does have an additional line that says Duncan's account began: "he had been examining the keel of the ship when he saw a large animal lying on the rock shelf" followed by the "odd looking beastie" and "huge frog" remarks.<br /><br />Either way the comparison is to an amphibian, and the slightly earlier surface sightings Witchell mentions call it a salamander, or "great salamander".<br /><br />It seems amphibians were the earliest contenders for an identification of the animal, but weren't much discussed again until Mackal came to the same conclusion almost 100 years later.Steve Plambeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09651489411808346005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-8588827502832133062012-01-29T09:03:50.563-08:002012-01-29T09:03:50.563-08:00Steve,
Henry Bauer's comprehensive sightings ...Steve,<br /><br />Henry Bauer's comprehensive sightings log has the 1880 encounter as sourced from Witchell's "Loch Ness Story" and Costello's "In Search of Lake Monsters" but I cannot see it in my PB version of Costello.<br /><br />My 1974 HB version of Witchell (which describes it as "frog like) has it and a cursory look at other classic books makes no mention of it. So, I would guess that Witchell picked it up as a local story either from Constance Whyte or another source.<br /><br />Where did you find the "tadpole" description?Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-62037767623573130772012-01-28T16:35:48.564-08:002012-01-28T16:35:48.564-08:00Hello GB!
Your post is only the second time I'...Hello GB!<br /><br />Your post is only the second time I've encountered an account of the 1880 underwater sighting, which seems to have been largely overlooked in the literature on the subject. I've been going through all my books trying to re-locate the passage I originally saw many years ago, but haven't stumbled back into it yet... perhaps it was in F.W. Holiday's "Great Orm"?<br /><br />I'm keen on comparing the texts because, if I recall correctly, in the version I first read MacDonald was quoted as saying "like a huge tadpole" rather than "like a huge frog". Perhaps I'm remembering it wrong, or perhaps the sources disagree?<br /><br />Looking forward to getting your book very soon -- from the extracts on the blog I already know it will be a great read.<br /><br />Regards,<br />SteveSteve Plambeckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09651489411808346005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-91142707022305622572012-01-25T01:13:58.816-08:002012-01-25T01:13:58.816-08:00Visibility depends on various factors such as dept...Visibility depends on various factors such as depth and as you say the sun. <br /><br />Dick Raynor has performed diving operations in Loch Ness and posted some comments and underwater videos which give an idea of visibility at this link:<br /><br />http://www.lochnessinvestigation.com/UWvizLochNess.htmGlasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-42133669849579852582012-01-24T16:49:54.756-08:002012-01-24T16:49:54.756-08:00an enjoyable read, and it certainly had my pulse r...an enjoyable read, and it certainly had my pulse racing, however ... I'm a diver in California, and when visibility is 5 feet or less, you literally cannot see beyond 5 feet. Good visibility is 15 feet and that is quite acceptable for viewing, a *huge* difference versus 5 feet (a 15 foot visibility dive is quite enjoyable - a 5 foot visibility dive is awful). Does it ever get to 15 foot visibility in Loch Ness? Even he states the water is "full of peat and is like thick tea" which is how I've heard it described. That doesn't sound like 15 foot visibility - he really should have mentioned that due to it being summer - warm, calm (?) - the visibility was a spectacular (for Loch Ness) 15 feet. Personally, had I been in Loch Ness and saw something large and moving at the very limit of my visibility - heart attack.jamesravhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00870675215940687987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-15951749050119524912012-01-23T11:43:29.143-08:002012-01-23T11:43:29.143-08:00Thanks, I added a postscript on the "Beppo&qu...Thanks, I added a postscript on the "Beppo" incident.Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-44758256246058637442012-01-23T10:29:34.155-08:002012-01-23T10:29:34.155-08:00Great article with fantastic follow-up and suggest...Great article with fantastic follow-up and suggestions! I must admit that I have lost a lot of interest in Nessie as lack of sighting, misidentified objects and hoaxes have made me look away, but I have never heard of this sighting and your theories are very intriguing! I think you are right, we have been going about Nessie Hunting all wrong!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-70469077927558215942012-01-23T09:31:46.829-08:002012-01-23T09:31:46.829-08:00What an interesting article! Thanks for posting i...What an interesting article! Thanks for posting it. Divers and encounters like this in the Loch must be given credibility. I would be hesitant to swim there. Regards.richardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-65508321482185989102012-01-22T05:46:48.556-08:002012-01-22T05:46:48.556-08:00Excellent work, my friend! Not only a fascinating...Excellent work, my friend! Not only a fascinating sighting, but follow up with the witness himself. And so good to hear Mr. Campbell put in a good and accurate light after the way Binns treats him. Great stuff!!Peter Saucerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16349540965664679379noreply@blogger.com