tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post8497227476263763270..comments2024-03-20T18:13:07.791-07:00Comments on LOCH NESS MONSTER: The eDNA Hunt PublicityGlasgow Boyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-32660809761873821292018-06-21T14:12:56.410-07:002018-06-21T14:12:56.410-07:00Prof Gemmell made an interesting statment:
"...Prof Gemmell made an interesting statment:<br /><br />"It may be that there is no monster, but we can’t prove that, or we can prove that we were unable to find evidence of it and unfortunately it’s very difficult to prove a negative: the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. So it might be that if there was a monster, we just didn’t sample water anywhere near where it had been over the last week or so or there may be other explanations."<br /><br />I thought the DNA would last longer than that, so basically if the monster avoids the 300 sampling areas for up to 7 days, they won't detect it. Hmm.Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-1231923538315379402018-06-07T10:22:36.683-07:002018-06-07T10:22:36.683-07:00Me a cultist? Preposterous, I am offended. Meh... ...Me a cultist? Preposterous, I am offended. Meh... The article is just a bunch of psychobabble by a pretentious “scholar” I'm skeptical on that learned persons assessment. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. Not everything can be explained away by philosophy or psychology.<br /><br />One can dismiss the obviously ridiculous notions such as a Flat Earth, Moon Landing Hoax, or even some questionable religious beliefs ( By the way, I will not discuss or debate religion here.), but the LNM? No, I'm afraid not. I'll remain a true believer, thank you very much. “There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy”John Alvaradohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18069155979480353745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-37965932088718578962018-06-07T03:20:48.584-07:002018-06-07T03:20:48.584-07:00I just read the article. Smug and patronising. The...I just read the article. Smug and patronising. The author seems to be oblivious to his own confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance. Naturewatch Enghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03062985122288755141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-68346434544168561712018-06-07T03:07:06.799-07:002018-06-07T03:07:06.799-07:00Worthy of a reply article in itself ...
Worthy of a reply article in itself ...<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-2362434619501289862018-06-06T18:21:43.216-07:002018-06-06T18:21:43.216-07:00
Article on DNA study seems to consider LNM fans a...<br />Article on DNA study seems to consider LNM fans a cult...<br />http://theconversation.com/why-wont-scientific-evidence-change-the-minds-of-loch-ness-monster-true-believers-97307Olrikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14519546544726111480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-87988055707039927322018-06-05T23:05:20.947-07:002018-06-05T23:05:20.947-07:00I was just finishing up reading the sub-categories...I was just finishing up reading the sub-categories on the official website and they had this under “The Monster Hunters”<br /><br />THE HOLLYWOOD CELEBRITY<br />In 2013 Charlie Sheen went on 2 nighttime hunts for the Monster. His equipment included a specially made hook, a leg of lamb as bait and lots of malt whiskey. Charlie returned empty handed.<br /><br />Charlie Sheen a monster hunter? In his wildest drunken dreams! The only thing Charlie did was return empty handed and drunk. Hahahaha!...Hey wait a minute, what am I laughing at, that sounds like something I would do! Dang...<br />John Alvaradohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18069155979480353745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-40092175031480109792018-06-04T00:38:53.911-07:002018-06-04T00:38:53.911-07:00Not at all and you're welcomed. Yes, he was a ...Not at all and you're welcomed. Yes, he was a younger man when he arrived at the loch back in 92. Gosh 26 years! Where does the time go! He gave up the Rat Race and set out to do what he really wanted to do with his life. For that and his tenacity, he deserves admiration. And he has achieved some measure of recognition and fame. The legacy of the Loch Ness Monster, real or fabled, will now and forever include Mr. Steve Feltham. John Alvaradohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18069155979480353745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-7706925225738834632018-06-03T06:24:24.561-07:002018-06-03T06:24:24.561-07:00Thank you very much for that, John (I hope you don...Thank you very much for that, John (I hope you don't mind me calling you by your first name). Boy has Steve Feltham changed physically since the day he drove to the loch! Father Time stands still for none of us. However, he appears to retain an open mind judging by that clip. I do get the impression that he's rather more sceptical than the day he first parked his mobile library lochside, which is slightly saddening but Mr Feltham is free to be exactly what he wants to be, not what I want him to be!Naturewatch Enghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03062985122288755141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-68590993047209090722018-06-02T13:32:48.289-07:002018-06-02T13:32:48.289-07:00Well, it is partly true, and I may have spoken in...Well, it is partly true, and I may have spoken in haste. And I agree with you, he is a very likable fellow.<br /><br />Not so much a full blown skeptic, as I still think he is a true believer. Only now he offers an alternate theory and his best guess for unexplained sightings. My quip about after 26 years and all he has to offer is a “Big Fish” story was a wee bit of sarcasm.<br /><br />Have a look at this. You can skip to 5:50 if you like. <br /><br /> https://vimeo.com/155556145John Alvaradohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18069155979480353745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-59121492360535783812018-06-02T04:36:56.143-07:002018-06-02T04:36:56.143-07:00Mr Alvarado, is this true? The genial chap living ...Mr Alvarado, is this true? The genial chap living lochside now believes Nessie to be a catfish? If so does he give his reasons? I watched the documentary about him driving to live at Loch Ness. I found him engaging on screen and felt the next stage of hunting was in good hands. I hope the nice chap still has the spark required to maintain the hunt.Naturewatch Enghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03062985122288755141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-15301525689785938632018-06-01T11:30:52.375-07:002018-06-01T11:30:52.375-07:00Nice to see new footage emerging today, just in ti...Nice to see new footage emerging today, just in time for the DNA experiment.GEZZAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093032226034742612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-72780928713523474582018-06-01T05:48:19.431-07:002018-06-01T05:48:19.431-07:00Steve Feltham a skeptic? Since when? Oh wait, he n...Steve Feltham a skeptic? Since when? Oh wait, he now believes or guesses it's nothing but a humongous catfish. 26 years wasted “searching” for the LNM.John Alvaradohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18069155979480353745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-15575073688070005702018-06-01T05:35:18.701-07:002018-06-01T05:35:18.701-07:00I suspect you're right GB. Monster Quest and ...I suspect you're right GB. Monster Quest and shows of their ilk searching for Lake Monsters, Sea Serpents and Mokele-mbembe never find anything conclusive. And as you well know, River Monsters with Jeremy Wade found nothing.John Alvaradohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18069155979480353745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-16651154605094941072018-06-01T03:27:54.556-07:002018-06-01T03:27:54.556-07:00They will be predicting nothing detected and at be...They will be predicting nothing detected and at best perhaps some sturgeon or cathfish DNA. It will be interesting to see if seal DNA is found.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-37974381340318709582018-06-01T03:26:59.913-07:002018-06-01T03:26:59.913-07:00I suspect History Channel contract. Yes, the detec...I suspect History Channel contract. Yes, the detectability of any species DNA will be proportional to its population and how mobile they are.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-42275874063924325002018-06-01T03:25:37.134-07:002018-06-01T03:25:37.134-07:00The best scenario is they get something that doesn...The best scenario is they get something that doesn't quite match their genome database. Nobody knows what plesiosaur or basilosaurus or Stellar's sea cow dna looks like. This is where the guesswork may begin. <br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-11629334545374524122018-05-31T15:11:22.772-07:002018-05-31T15:11:22.772-07:00If an unknown amphibian DNA strand is recovered ca...If an unknown amphibian DNA strand is recovered can we "mix" it with salamander DNA and get Steve Plambeck's Giant Salamander? Shades of Jurassic Park, oh my! Just funning with you Steve. Whatever is in the loch is still up in the air as far as I'm concerned. ;)John Alvaradohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18069155979480353745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-181160405848024552018-05-31T11:04:26.209-07:002018-05-31T11:04:26.209-07:00The sceptics are not saying much on this. It woul...The sceptics are not saying much on this. It would be nice to hear their views and get their opinions on this test.I wonder what Steve Feltham and co think of it. GEZZAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093032226034742612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-77271302983892278872018-05-31T02:09:59.524-07:002018-05-31T02:09:59.524-07:00Is it really possible that £100,000 has been raise...Is it really possible that £100,000 has been raised? Wowsers. There's life in this mystery yet. I can't wait to see the results. I share the concerns about whether DNA could be detected from a small number of animals in such a huge volume of water. My belief is that the animals live in the Loch permanently. I don't agree with the theory of travel to and from the sea.Naturewatch Enghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03062985122288755141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-939008773060901142018-05-30T10:32:03.162-07:002018-05-30T10:32:03.162-07:00Aye Morar and Oich would be weird control samples!...Aye Morar and Oich would be weird control samples! Sometimes you wonder how much research people do before they come to Ness.<br /><br />This is a very interesting project none-the-less. What I fail to understand is if the monster is or was either a) a plesiosaur or b) an unknown creature then how can they test for something who's DNA is unknown? (As far as I'm aware we don't have plesiosaur DNA yet) And if you find a relative such as a turtle then that only really proves there might be a turtle in it, no? Kyle Tittertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07575714238450998417noreply@blogger.com