tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post7516309701521507515..comments2024-03-20T18:13:07.791-07:00Comments on LOCH NESS MONSTER: The Return of Mr. BinnsGlasgow Boyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-84335213633326648742017-09-29T07:43:02.530-07:002017-09-29T07:43:02.530-07:00Brief flick thru. Me and Nick Redfern get full end...Brief flick thru. Me and Nick Redfern get full endorsements from Mr. Logic. Oh wait, its the complete opposite. Never mind.<br /><br />With my loch ness trip over, I can now have a closer look at it.Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-37611795562648156222017-09-29T07:18:48.965-07:002017-09-29T07:18:48.965-07:00Will buy a copy soon. Have you read any of it yet?...Will buy a copy soon. Have you read any of it yet? Is it critical of this website?Will Soutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005247829328136516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-30161231900572065882017-09-26T04:58:31.736-07:002017-09-26T04:58:31.736-07:00Just an Amazon glitch, it's back. I bought min...Just an Amazon glitch, it's back. I bought mine a month ago, haven't read it yet.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-63390044994802739022017-09-25T10:20:23.146-07:002017-09-25T10:20:23.146-07:00Where can I buy a copy? Like you say, unavailable ...Where can I buy a copy? Like you say, unavailable on Amazon.Will Soutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005247829328136516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-82266611688097663412017-09-18T02:36:33.046-07:002017-09-18T02:36:33.046-07:00Interesting, the book has now been unavailable for...Interesting, the book has now been unavailable for several days. Amazon glitch or something else?<br /><br />I have my copy, just haven't got round to reading it due to higher priority tasks.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-45937335392139556612017-08-20T14:58:41.482-07:002017-08-20T14:58:41.482-07:00Ask any scientist to explain how the conditions th...Ask any scientist to explain how the conditions that enabled the Big Bang to happen came about. They are unable to answer. They cannot explain the origins of what led to space and time existing. Big Bangs don't just appear from nothing whatsoever before them. We're all only scientists as much as current science allows us to be. I for one believe there are a great many unsolved mysteries, including what led to the existence of anything at all, including a Big Bang. The webpage owner does not want the comments going down this avenue, so I will not continue. I just wanted to have my say on the faith people put into science. Some is well founded, some is not.Will Soutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005247829328136516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-14838209259031797892017-08-20T05:02:05.079-07:002017-08-20T05:02:05.079-07:00I think your going slightly over the top here. It ...I think your going slightly over the top here. It does not matter what the % of people believe in. We are talking about a book, and a book is about opinions. Roy was giving his opinion that the book didnt answer many questions of his interest in the mystery and i was saying the book is not very good ( rubbish a slight overword i agree) People have different opinions and you have to accept that though i have found many sceptics find that hard to do. If you read a book on another subject and you thought it was poor would you be quick to read another by the same author? I would not. But we are all different and some sceptics should try and take that in rather than try and slate others who have a different opinion.GEZZAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093032226034742612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-85905063437820643582017-08-20T03:42:02.761-07:002017-08-20T03:42:02.761-07:00Thanks.I have to be honest i couldnt take the book...Thanks.I have to be honest i couldnt take the book seriously with that title SOLVED,and i agree with Roy i couldnt imagine it adding much to the middle of the road man. Im a firm believer in Nessie but Roy sounds like he is in the middle, im not sure of course just my hunch.I think a lot of books add to the mystery but one that says SOLVED for me its just plain daft. I look forward to hearing your review of the new one Will.GEZZAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093032226034742612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-42037334564474057082017-08-20T03:25:58.339-07:002017-08-20T03:25:58.339-07:00You know, I was going to reject this comment that ...You know, I was going to reject this comment that puts pro-Nessie people on a par with religious believers. It's a well worn and weary path oft trod by sceptics trying to paint cryptozoologists as some kind of fanatic that even needs to be censored. <br /><br />Well, I don't know what an irrefutable photograph of God would look like, but I'll go out on a limb and actually accept that eyewitnesses are capable of accurately descrbing what they saw and that various films/photos do not bend so easily to simplistic and strange sceptical "interpretations".<br /><br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-69235574038572939452017-08-20T01:42:58.037-07:002017-08-20T01:42:58.037-07:00I would be happy to post my thoughts on the book a...I would be happy to post my thoughts on the book after I read it, Gezza.Will Soutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005247829328136516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-75136539008267746782017-08-19T13:12:51.000-07:002017-08-19T13:12:51.000-07:00well lets hope its better than his last one. Maybe...well lets hope its better than his last one. Maybe you could tell me Will because i wont be reading it. GEZZAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093032226034742612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-83463235827772017402017-08-19T06:09:46.911-07:002017-08-19T06:09:46.911-07:00I do have to agree with Gezza about the title. Mr ...I do have to agree with Gezza about the title. Mr Binns must feel frustrated that he solved the mystery all those years ago, but people don't seem to agree. If the mystery was solved by his book, why have so many books on the subject been published since I wonder. Then there are websites like this one and documentaries. There are also people who take a sceptical approach still heavily involved. The mystery has been neither proven nor disproven. That's why the activity and interest continues. Mr Binns is acknowledging that fact by publishing another book on the subject.Will Soutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005247829328136516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-70650827199158690182017-08-19T03:23:34.638-07:002017-08-19T03:23:34.638-07:00I guess you didn't read my rebuttals on Binns ...I guess you didn't read my rebuttals on Binns then.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-79056262449012448562017-08-19T01:12:19.926-07:002017-08-19T01:12:19.926-07:00The book no one seems to have read yet is THE LOCH...The book no one seems to have read yet is THE LOCH NESS MYSTERY RELOADED, not SOLVED. Do tell us if you have read the former as it might improve this conversation. <br /><br />Yes, that is my opinion. Yes, not everyone shares my opinion. But I am pretty certain most people do. You don't seriously think the majority of people believe in the LNM, do you? So what's your point? Saying something is my opinion is not a rebuttal of my opinion. Unless you are prepared to engage with people's opinions, at the level of fact and judgment, there is no debate at all. Some opinions are more valuable than other opinions. Do you believe in the Big Bang theory or that God created ther world? If you think God created the world, and I tell you no, it was the Big Bang, do you think it relevant to say, "But that's just your opinion?" That's it? If so, then you don't hold reasonable beliefs, because you are not prepared to argue for them and allow your logic to be tested. The evidence for the Big Bang is overwhelming compared to the evidence for a universe-creating God. The two opinions are not equal.<br /><br />It also seems to me perfectly sensible that opinions can change or be confirmed by new lines of debate, new evidence, a review of available evidence, etc. So I really don't know why anyone wants to attack a book they haven't read. It would make a difference if they read the book and then attacked it on detailed grounds rather than being rude about the author personally and acting AS IF diatribe were an argument. <br /><br />I am personally a sceptic, obviously. The idea that sceptics are mad or in denial or covering up some obvious truth I find faintly ludicrous. I think the world would be a more interesting place with the LNM, but on balance I'm not prepared to allow my imaginative delight at the idea overwhelm the reasonable doubts that debate on the issue have raised. The evidence for the LNM is thin. But if you are a confirmed believer you obviously won't like people saying this as you have possibly invested a lot of energy in your belief. And that is fine. You can surely go on believing and ignore Binns. But it makes no sense to say anything about a book (by which I measn RELOADED) if you haven't read it.<br /><br /><br />Macdonald Dalyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15552245407205107807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-27389909161038136592017-08-18T12:27:34.424-07:002017-08-18T12:27:34.424-07:00But that is just your opinion, not everyone shares...But that is just your opinion, not everyone shares your opinion. The title in itself is ludicrous, SOLVED.There are plenty of people who have spent far more time studying the loch than Binns and they dont come out with MYSTERY SOLVED. And your strong point for a good book is he says Dinsdale filmed a boat and the surgeons photo was a hoax, well im afraid a lot of people could have told you that. I think 80% of folk guessed the same. And yes ive read the book and yes i thought it was rubbish compared to most books ive read.GEZZAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093032226034742612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-75377850549221706562017-08-18T10:25:10.157-07:002017-08-18T10:25:10.157-07:00It says on my copy of The Loch Ness Mystery Solved...It says on my copy of The Loch Ness Mystery Solved that Binns first went monster-spotting when he was 16 and has taken part in many monster hunting expeditions. He wasn’t someone who was against Nessie from the start, he obviously changed his mind. The level of abuse directed at that book together with his new one which no one has yet read shows that some minds are very closed.<br /><br />Just to go on shouting that something is rubbish without offering anything by way of reasoned argument suggests that Binns has struck a raw nerve. He argued that the surgeon’s photo was probably a hoax and Dinsdale filmed a boat, he wasn’t exactly wrong there, was he? The Loch Ness Mystery Solved is well written. I think it’s particularly good on the history and the social context. My paperback copy comes festooned with rave reviews from a wide range of reputable publications. If the book was as bad as some suggest I don’t think it would have been well received by professional reviewers.<br /><br />In the thirty years since the book came out the case for Nessie remains threadbare. No film, no close-up photographs. Just eyewitness statements. Binns was good on explaining why a monster based on just eyewitness claims lacks credibility.<br /><br />My main point, however, is that no one can say a book is poor until they have read it and, as far as I can see from the comments above, only one person commenting here has as yet read it.<br />Macdonald Dalyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15552245407205107807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-61366410812458663462017-08-16T00:48:19.314-07:002017-08-16T00:48:19.314-07:00P.S. According to the Browns Books for Students we...P.S. According to the Browns Books for Students website, this book comes in stock on 15th September. If I buy it and it's mostly the same text as the original I will be very disappointed.Will Soutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005247829328136516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-73173636237466749902017-08-16T00:44:03.202-07:002017-08-16T00:44:03.202-07:00My feelings on the original Binns book is that it ...My feelings on the original Binns book is that it was largely flawed but made a few good points. I don't remember too many specifics now, but there were a number of points at which he seemed to suggest that his hunches were proven facts. I like reading everything I can get hold of about Loch Ness and I will be buying the new book. It's the right thing to do as a researcher to consider all angles. Even though I'm certain the angle Binns looks from is almost entirely wrong.Will Soutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005247829328136516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-4824540947184500232017-08-15T16:13:54.447-07:002017-08-15T16:13:54.447-07:00Mike, how did he develop his argument thoroughly ?...Mike, how did he develop his argument thoroughly ? I cant understand how anyone can think its a well considered effort. GEZZAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093032226034742612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-89543304615922634042017-08-15T16:05:33.054-07:002017-08-15T16:05:33.054-07:00I agree. its rubbish.I agree. its rubbish.GEZZAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093032226034742612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-31959003782508453102017-08-15T14:18:02.515-07:002017-08-15T14:18:02.515-07:00I was waiting till copies appeared in the one poun...I was waiting till copies appeared in the one pound book bins next week.<br /><br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-42623795697543949582017-08-15T12:42:57.797-07:002017-08-15T12:42:57.797-07:00I'd like to read the new Binns book. I really ...I'd like to read the new Binns book. I really can't see how one can call his first book on the Loch Ness Monster rubbish. He developed his sceptical argument very thoroughly and the book is well written and organised. Even if you are a believer, I think you'd have to concede that the first Binns book is a well considered effort. <br /><br />Has anyone actually seen the new one yet?Mike McKeownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02367377296272892651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-51547464773016469492017-08-15T01:10:30.322-07:002017-08-15T01:10:30.322-07:00The big question for me is does a book add anythin...The big question for me is does a book add anything to the mystery? Sadly in my opinion Binns doesn't , or at least his last book didn't. What can his new book bring? I don't mind reading a skepticsl view and a book by Dick Raynor or Adrian Shine would be well worth a read and would add a lot to the mystery. But Binns?? No. I thought his book was rubbish to be honest and came across as a man with an axe to grind!ROYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11606400892865604548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-84526143315346821592017-08-08T02:46:22.316-07:002017-08-08T02:46:22.316-07:00Yup, thanks. May wait a week and see if I can pick...Yup, thanks. May wait a week and see if I can pick it up in a book bin sale for a pound. :)<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-46332981835915519092017-08-08T01:47:21.357-07:002017-08-08T01:47:21.357-07:00I see that it is now available for purchase on Ama...I see that it is now available for purchase on Amazon as today is publication date. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1999735900/Macdonald Dalyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15552245407205107807noreply@blogger.com