tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post3796241732046245544..comments2024-03-20T18:13:07.791-07:00Comments on LOCH NESS MONSTER: The Carcass Problem (Part 1)Glasgow Boyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comBlogger105125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-28791939695349971212014-05-10T00:06:04.450-07:002014-05-10T00:06:04.450-07:00Oh and geordie i called u mr sceptic cus i thought...Oh and geordie i called u mr sceptic cus i thought it sounded good off john lol but ill keep tongeordie from now on . And interestingly the cheetah was down to a small number thousands of years ago and they ok lol and the elephant seal was hunted down to 20 in 1890 but now over 3 thousand of them. Will they be extinct in thousand years cus of the gene pool...........hmmmm i dont think so. LolJakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-16987531766872450972014-04-30T08:47:06.447-07:002014-04-30T08:47:06.447-07:00And the thing he found in the bay to me resembled ...And the thing he found in the bay to me resembled a tree trunk !!!! How can u tell with sonar the diffrence between a tree stump and a carcass ?????? And there must be loads of tree trunks in the loch????? Did he find them ???? FarceJakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-13372598807356852762014-04-30T08:35:36.039-07:002014-04-30T08:35:36.039-07:00Yeah john bit of a farce i reckon!! The sides of t...Yeah john bit of a farce i reckon!! The sides of the ness slope up so how bob rines could get close enuf up to search the walls is beyond me!!! And interestin u say bout things moving cus rines went back again to find the thing he found in urquhart bay and it had gone !!!!!Jakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-71415583694916864572014-04-30T08:14:24.862-07:002014-04-30T08:14:24.862-07:00And my other question that went unanswered was the...And my other question that went unanswered was the question of strong underwater currents and storms. I read once that a submarine used in the hunt for nessie was turned right round when it was just a few feet off the bottom of deep water and the submarine was very heavy. Now again im no expert on this but is it not possible that remains could be shifted about then end up in the sides of the Loch? Or even swept away with the currents towards the river ness side. Did Mr Rines search Loch Douchfour ? I agree that its not likely Mr Rines searched the whole loch bottom, we saw in 1987 how difficult it was 4 operation deepscan 2 search the whole Loch, in fact only 70 % of the Loch was searched and they used 20 boats . How many boats did Mr Rines use ? My guess is 1. The problem deepscan had was they did not sonar the sides which surely is the same problem Mr Rines would of had, therefore any remains in the sides would not be picked up. I have 2 agree with the fact that Mr Rines did not cover the whole Loch , in fact i doubt if be went over half of it.johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-60938280095461704462014-04-30T07:41:47.053-07:002014-04-30T07:41:47.053-07:00I used 2 live in Loch Ness and used 2 fish it all ...I used 2 live in Loch Ness and used 2 fish it all the time. I have seen big fish jumping in there including a huge pike in the fort augustus area that i saw regulary 4 two years. Also when i fished in borlum bay there was remains of deer and goats washed up all the time. Now im led 2 think that an animal sinking or drifting depends on how it dies, drowning or the cold water killing it, or even dying before it lands in the Loch. Im not sure on this but i have bn told if it sinks in deep water it wont surface again because of the icy tempetatures and the pressure of the great depth. If this is true then surely there are animal remains on the bottom of Loch Ness. I might be wrong, im no expert but i find it difficult 2 see why Mr Rines did not pick these up on his adventure. johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-26614086452150292592014-04-30T07:22:01.215-07:002014-04-30T07:22:01.215-07:00Can any1 tell me why Mr Rines did not find any rem...Can any1 tell me why Mr Rines did not find any remains of deer or mountain goats that fall into the loch and die ? Or why he did not pick up any shipwrecks or even the sherlock holmes nessie that sank? Or why even not the remains of a big fish ? There are some big Ferox and big pike in the big Lochs of scotland including Loch Ness. Mr Sceptic can you explain this ?johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-38487210053233274902014-04-30T07:07:32.325-07:002014-04-30T07:07:32.325-07:00The only nonsense is coming from you geordie !!!...The only nonsense is coming from you geordie !!! A corpse drifting 30 miles to sea without anyone seeing it lol yeah okJakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-89217731221086892432014-04-30T06:47:36.757-07:002014-04-30T06:47:36.757-07:00Ever heard of night time and darkness?
Ever heard...Ever heard of night time and darkness?<br /><br />Ever heard of drifting debris getting caught in underwater debris?<br /><br />The idea that one lady drowning 80 years ago and not being found is justification for year after year a family of 30 foot monsters never resulting in a corpse is just laughable. Seriously can't be bothered with this level of nonsense anymore and will just wait for more Glasgow Boy articles. Geordie Scepticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-31191813867384575902014-04-30T04:32:36.769-07:002014-04-30T04:32:36.769-07:00Geordie i think someone would of noticed a body dr...Geordie i think someone would of noticed a body drifting down a loch 20 odd miles long then down a river!!! Jakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-90661980386384966322014-04-30T03:49:41.104-07:002014-04-30T03:49:41.104-07:00Geordie i stand corrected. I have just spoke to my...Geordie i stand corrected. I have just spoke to my good friend in loch ness over phone ( who knew bob rines) and he told me the time i was up on loch and saw bob rines in urquhart bay was when he came back to find the carcass in the bay not the initial search. He said yes he was in the bay for a couple of days so i was right just mistaken bout the time!! We all make mistakes !!! LolJakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-6227080937449938582014-04-30T03:48:35.760-07:002014-04-30T03:48:35.760-07:00Human bodies eventually float and drift, have you ...Human bodies eventually float and drift, have you considered her body might have drifted out of Loch Ness?Geordie Scepticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-41203529902819260212014-04-30T02:01:33.981-07:002014-04-30T02:01:33.981-07:00Strange how you claimed earlier that silt couldnt ...Strange how you claimed earlier that silt couldnt cover a body yet we know about mrs hambros body that still hasnt bin found. Your the one saying rines covered every inch of the loch floor so really ur the one saying he didnt do his job properly Jakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-69146624621046821422014-04-30T01:51:05.363-07:002014-04-30T01:51:05.363-07:00Nothing has prooved me wrong lol. Diffrent documen...Nothing has prooved me wrong lol. Diffrent documentry i saw with rines. And yes i did see him for two days in urqhuart bay few years ago why dont you ask someone else because everyone saw him there lol. And you still didnt answer my question... ..hence the last post to get away lolJakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-24563139191741955652014-04-29T23:21:22.267-07:002014-04-29T23:21:22.267-07:00The youtube video proved you wrong, so the latest ...The youtube video proved you wrong, so the latest post is claiming you personally saw Rines not doing his work properly. Ho hum. Why not also post that you spoke to Rines and he told you he found 5 corpses but he didn't want anyone knowing about them? <br /><br />The desperation is palpable. Geordie Scepticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-85917093601929195542014-04-29T07:23:45.229-07:002014-04-29T07:23:45.229-07:00John i was there on a boating trip few years ago w...John i was there on a boating trip few years ago when bob rines was on the loch! His boat didnt leave urquhart bay for two days! And thats a fraction on the loch!!! And while i like like and respect his work and personality i think his carcass search was a bit of a farce! How does sonar distinquish a tree from a carcass?????? The loch floor must be full of objects!and to say he covered the whole bottom in two weeks to me is just plain ridiculous!!Jakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-42250060333408846322014-04-29T05:54:34.968-07:002014-04-29T05:54:34.968-07:00I agree with you Jake. I doubt Mr Rines on his lit...I agree with you Jake. I doubt Mr Rines on his little boat could cover the whole area. And if he did why didnt he find anything else such as deer skeletons or mountain goats or other wildlife that must fall in to the Loch? Or even bigger fish.johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-84210274505942215902014-04-29T05:23:05.528-07:002014-04-29T05:23:05.528-07:00Could the currents conversely move the corpses out...Could the currents conversely move the corpses out to the open areas? I feel this might all be nonsense when you consider the gap in years between the gargoyle head photo and the time the tree debris was found in the same place. Unless of course the debris was moved elsewhere by currents in the intervening years, and then moved back in time for the search for it. :-) After all, it is *possible*, isn't it? Geordie Scepticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-91065022600656929972014-04-29T05:18:49.213-07:002014-04-29T05:18:49.213-07:00So what are you implying geordie??? Mrs hambros bo...So what are you implying geordie??? Mrs hambros body has bin covered in silt after 80 years??Jakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-24408688751045404332014-04-29T04:20:36.726-07:002014-04-29T04:20:36.726-07:00Could be an interesting experiment to put somethin...Could be an interesting experiment to put something like a shark carcass into LN, and if you could get it to stay on the bottom see how long it takes to disappear. Shark skeletons are cartilage rather than bone, so the carcass would realistically be no more resistant to decay than a Nessie. <br /><br />I guess too expensive and not environmentally friendly though.<br /><br />This year so far we've learned that Nessie can avoid camera phones while still being seen clearly, is almost immortal, can thrive with a tiny gene pool, and never leaves a corpse anywhere. Must be related to the Sasquatch, because apparently that beast has the same magical abilities (apart from the tiny gene pool) according to the forums.Geordie Scepticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-32370063145273223662014-04-29T04:16:49.615-07:002014-04-29T04:16:49.615-07:00What about these underwater currents i keep hearin...What about these underwater currents i keep hearing about. I have read there is underwater storms deep down in the loch. Could these move skeletons about ? could they drive them in to the loch walls ? Maybe Glasgow boy could fill us in on this one.johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-40124680256908880282014-04-29T03:56:05.561-07:002014-04-29T03:56:05.561-07:00But according to you it takes years and years for ...But according to you it takes years and years for silt to cover a body. Your argument is getting weaker geordie . And like i said before, we dont know how long ago a creature died. There wont be many of them and they could live to a ripe old age like a tortoise .so there might not be any bkdies from recent years.Jakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-47773866875159142492014-04-29T02:40:20.814-07:002014-04-29T02:40:20.814-07:00A clue in the "1930s" bit maybe? You se...A clue in the "1930s" bit maybe? You see no difference between a 5ft corpse from 80 years ago and a fairly recent 30ft corpse?<br />The excuses keep coming but they sound weaker each time.Geordie Scepticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-38941547349009437402014-04-29T00:45:35.967-07:002014-04-29T00:45:35.967-07:00As much as i admire bob rines i think he was bit t...As much as i admire bob rines i think he was bit too enthusiastic! If he covered the whole loch floor with high tech sonar ( something i know nothing about i may say) then i fail to see how he didnt find the remains of a 5ft mrs hambro who drowned near fort augustus in the 1930's and her body never found!!!!!Jakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-36601640192557456262014-04-28T23:32:25.468-07:002014-04-28T23:32:25.468-07:00Mr Sceptic is it not true people have died in Loch...Mr Sceptic is it not true people have died in Loch Ness and their bodies have never been recovered ? If Mr Rines covered the whole Loch Floor then how did he not find the bodies?johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-48958465750478544712014-04-28T23:06:55.215-07:002014-04-28T23:06:55.215-07:00Is this the same Rines you have bin slating in pre...Is this the same Rines you have bin slating in previous posts? Lol. Well my opinion is still that the whole bed could not be searched in a couple of weeks and i saw a documentry with rines saying most likely areas. And i still think best chance of a carcass is im the side walls plus i agree with the silt theory that they could be buried. LolJakenoreply@blogger.com