tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post327713821991403835..comments2024-03-20T18:13:07.791-07:00Comments on LOCH NESS MONSTER: Finlay's Monster and Cobb's SpeedboatGlasgow Boyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comBlogger69125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-74718516053855668972019-06-03T01:24:51.382-07:002019-06-03T01:24:51.382-07:00Like I said.i bought the book hoping to learn some...Like I said.i bought the book hoping to learn something,instead it turned out<br /> to be a badly researched propaganda piece.<br />Basically a trojan horse.<br />I was young and had all the Nessie books,including Gould's and mackels books.<br />I even had the filmakers magazine that had the detailed breakdown of the rings expeditions.with excellent photographs,including the "gargoyle " photo ,which I'd,IMO,NOT s tree stump,but a real animals head with top to bottom bilateral symmetry,which the "stump" did not have.<br />Nessie,is like the ogopogo,which has body chameleon effects where it can portrude it skin musculature to hide amonst tree branches and rocks.<br />I have several Andrew Bennett photos of female ogopogos on land where they hide looking like a tree branch,except for the eye and nostril and mouth slit.<br />The ogopogo an also ruffle it's skin to look like tree bark.<br />Many Nessie can do the same.<br />I read one cryptid encounter in a flooded lake,where a kayacker paddled amongst several dead trees and attempted to tie up to one ,as his rope touched it,an eye opened,and it dropped down like a rocket scaring the hell out of the kayacker.johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13948846515909819569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-15207179966622200402019-06-03T01:08:47.617-07:002019-06-03T01:08:47.617-07:00I consider binns to be a Trojan Horse.
He Comes ou...I consider binns to be a Trojan Horse.<br />He Comes out with a book that purports to examine Nessie objectively but inside is full of lies.johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13948846515909819569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-80751873627277511502019-06-03T00:58:13.109-07:002019-06-03T00:58:13.109-07:00I find the adverb "undulating" intriguin...I find the adverb "undulating" intriguing.<br />It conjures up images of Professor Tucker's Elasmosaurus,gliding through lochness,dragging undulating hay bales (round or square) into the depths!( Nessie doesn't like competitors.)johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13948846515909819569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-71070184521735523972019-06-02T13:30:50.246-07:002019-06-02T13:30:50.246-07:00Sorry,been studying psychological warfare and been...Sorry,been studying psychological warfare and been trying out some of my lessons.<br />This technique was in the discredit catagory.<br />There is also the repetition category,to plant an idea or word in the readers head...but I digress..Nessie has repeated her appearances 11,000 times and it ain't " hay bales".johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13948846515909819569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-5892305252650074382019-06-02T13:23:55.936-07:002019-06-02T13:23:55.936-07:00Hay bales don't "undulate".Hay bales don't "undulate".johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13948846515909819569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-28362784407156117012019-06-02T13:22:20.039-07:002019-06-02T13:22:20.039-07:00😀😀johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13948846515909819569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-69828271308245812842019-06-01T15:34:20.718-07:002019-06-01T15:34:20.718-07:00Yeah, the ticks can be a problem. I picked up 3 of...Yeah, the ticks can be a problem. I picked up 3 of the little buggers last summer when I was clambering about in the ferns up near the Hambro monument. Home surgery with darning needles isn't the best way to spend a holiday, especially after a few cans of grog. It's still a great place to walk though and so far, there's been no sign of Lyme disease so it's all good. Have a safe trip mate!Border Rangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637616603071773115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-38821706245118720152019-06-01T04:12:27.539-07:002019-06-01T04:12:27.539-07:00I love walking around there Border ranger.. Though...I love walking around there Border ranger.. Though last time I did I got a tick in my leg lol. .no shorts next time ha.. I love going round the other side as well to lncharnadochh bay and cherry Island.. Love sitting there with a couple of cans of tennents.. Prob my fav spot..so peaceful... CheersROYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07593737226241908577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-88463408795873098242019-06-01T02:57:04.921-07:002019-06-01T02:57:04.921-07:00I know Ronald isn't exactly on your Christmas ...I know Ronald isn't exactly on your Christmas card list, but I wouldn't myself pillory him to the same extent. He's entitled to his views and I don't think he's ever been hugely disparaging of anyone- he just offers some alternative explanations. When I first read the 'Solved' tome, shortly after its first appearance in paperback (about 1983, I think) I was quite surprised by his conclusions because they jarred with just about everything I'd ever read up to that point, but this in itself has never made me feel hostile towards him; If anything, I'd welcome a proper sit down discussion. Anyway, keep up the good work with the blog. Your tracking down of Harry Finlay has been a major highlight this year. I wish some of the sceptics would come forward and share their reactions. The radio silence has been deafening in that regard.Border Rangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637616603071773115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-83976025512884407132019-06-01T02:47:13.156-07:002019-06-01T02:47:13.156-07:00All good, Roy. I won't get back to the loch th...All good, Roy. I won't get back to the loch this summer sadly, but i hope we can meet up on another occasion. 10 pints sounds like a definite winner :-) Enjoy your time at the Fort and if you're walking round Borlum Bay, keep an eye open for our friend. That part of the loch is as good as any for a potential encounter. Father Gregory.... Mrs Robertson... Bill Jobes- the list continues.Border Rangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637616603071773115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-8838618287077705092019-05-31T15:19:17.417-07:002019-05-31T15:19:17.417-07:00john, some of your comments have not made it to th...john, some of your comments have not made it to this forum, you're getting too touchy!<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-64194966600754872982019-05-31T15:10:38.010-07:002019-05-31T15:10:38.010-07:00Binns is the worst of them, Border Ranger, and tha...Binns is the worst of them, Border Ranger, and that is saying something.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-88941968354788294562019-05-31T10:20:35.888-07:002019-05-31T10:20:35.888-07:00Why do you keep using the word 'undulating'...Why do you keep using the word 'undulating' John? Did Cameron and Fraser describe what they saw using that term?Border Rangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637616603071773115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-70451082478806790582019-05-31T10:17:00.167-07:002019-05-31T10:17:00.167-07:00More than happy to share, but as I've been at ...More than happy to share, but as I've been at pains to point out, my experience in itself doesn't mean there is a large monster in Loch Ness. If I'd seen a large hump or a head and neck, I'd be taking a very different line, but as it is, I can only report what I saw and what I felt. As I've said on this blog already, my personal stance is that there is a case to be answered at Loch Ness which goes beyond common misidentification and deliberate hoaxes. What this means in practice though, I simply don't know.... and to date, neither does anyone else, so to my mind, there's no point in us getting into the sceptic vs believer wars because that's when Loch Ness starts becoming more like a religion or some kind of cult. If people think I'm loopy because I believe there is more to Loch Ness than media hype, it bothers me not a jot; I get more concerned when people take their beliefs to fundamentalist levels and then close their minds as a result. Let's all stay as open as we can until we reach a position that we can be reasonably sure one way or the other. In time, this day may still come.Border Rangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637616603071773115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-64092972506862247502019-05-31T10:06:11.552-07:002019-05-31T10:06:11.552-07:00Not sure why you feel the need to attack Ronald Bi...Not sure why you feel the need to attack Ronald Binns so vehemently, John. Like Dick Raynor, Binns put in his time as a member of the LNIB. Were you there with them at that time? The positions that a number of these former believers have reached are based on long years of firsthand experience. This doesn't necessarily mean that everything they say is gospel- they're human like the rest of us- but it doesn't make them lunatics either. I don't think Binns has ignored any facts, he's just given us his own interpretation of them and that's fair enough, isn't it? Whether we believe that interpretation or not is entirely our own affair is it not... Anyway, congratulations on owning the book. Not sure why that's even worth mentioning. If you'd just borrowed it, would that make a difference? :-)Border Rangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637616603071773115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-67956177805936436032019-05-31T09:35:51.729-07:002019-05-31T09:35:51.729-07:00Not sure how to react to such antagonistic posting...Not sure how to react to such antagonistic posting, John. As I said, I don't myself believe that Cameron and Fraser saw a hay bale but the suggestion that something yellowish floating in the Loch, on the face of it, is a reasonable enough explanation, except.... that it doesn't fully square with what the eye-witnesses were telling us.Border Rangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637616603071773115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-51707727662333831652019-05-31T09:31:57.924-07:002019-05-31T09:31:57.924-07:00Indeed. As I said, the hay bale hypothesis is reas...Indeed. As I said, the hay bale hypothesis is reasonable enough as an explanation to account for something large and yellowish in the water, but it doesn't square with the other side of the equation which is what the eye witnesses themselves say they saw. And therein, it seems to me, is the nub of the sceptic-believer divide. This doesn't, in itself, lead me to attack the likes of Dick Raynor though. People are free to believe whatever they want. I myself think there is still a case to be answered at Loch Ness; others think it's all nonsense. Either position is fine. Each to their own. Border Rangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637616603071773115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-6183867234421488662019-05-31T09:24:41.720-07:002019-05-31T09:24:41.720-07:0011,000 sightings, John? Would you care to enlighte...11,000 sightings, John? Would you care to enlighten us on how you arrived at that number? I've been following the Loch Ness story since about 1975 and I don't think I've ever seen any claims like 11,000.Border Rangerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637616603071773115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-23753648964132497542019-05-31T08:41:26.421-07:002019-05-31T08:41:26.421-07:00Nice one border ranger.. Ur right it doesn't m...Nice one border ranger.. Ur right it doesn't matter what anyone thinks u know what u saw! And yeah I've sampled a few ales but I love the tennents and as ya can't get it in Cymru I always drink it in Scotland.. Lovely drink . And yes I would defo share a pint or 10 with u if we wer up at the same time.. I'm about to book my next trip at the Fort Augustus cabin Park.. Roll on... CheersROYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07593737226241908577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-36450638649060946712019-05-31T05:58:14.414-07:002019-05-31T05:58:14.414-07:00Imo,the hay bales silliness does not work,not in l...Imo,the hay bales silliness does not work,not in lochness nor in the comment section.And Roy says Dickie Raynor proposed a hay bales as the proper explanation of an object undulating while crossing the loch( Cameron's reported sighting)?<br />Absolutely ridiculous!<br />johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13948846515909819569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-21116676250986765882019-05-31T05:26:19.201-07:002019-05-31T05:26:19.201-07:00Explanations such as hay bales never fully answer ...Explanations such as hay bales never fully answer the question of what was seen. There is always a requirement that the witness(es) failed to properly describe what they saw to bridge the credibility gap. That is an untestable premise which is easily filled in by the confirmation bias of the sceptic.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-49596485703043376092019-05-31T05:04:28.813-07:002019-05-31T05:04:28.813-07:00More hay bales,except this time it's round?
Yo...More hay bales,except this time it's round?<br />Your comment certainly plants Doubt in the "undulating hay bales( rectangular classification)<br />Ha,ha,me and my lads would dump a Round hay bale( undulating type) in the loch,and read about all the tourists calling in lochness monster sightings..ha ha good times.you can't beat a round ( or retangular- Stuart) hay bales for hoaxing the monster.of course we used only the " undulating type"..good times!��johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13948846515909819569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-70763172626146454842019-05-30T15:17:14.293-07:002019-05-30T15:17:14.293-07:00The hay bales is a good/ logical explanation?
Of w...The hay bales is a good/ logical explanation?<br />Of what?<br />Lunacy?johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13948846515909819569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-8863525202519853852019-05-30T15:14:45.428-07:002019-05-30T15:14:45.428-07:00Badly written book,non scientific rag full of luna...Badly written book,non scientific rag full of lunatic suppositions.ignoring facts.<br />And I owned the book.johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13948846515909819569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-52818612283276328422019-05-30T15:13:00.425-07:002019-05-30T15:13:00.425-07:00Creepy story..and it's good that you shared it...Creepy story..and it's good that you shared it.<br />Unknown large monster - 1<br />Undulating hay bales----0johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13948846515909819569noreply@blogger.com