tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post3152927999355241466..comments2024-02-23T15:49:17.679-08:00Comments on LOCH NESS MONSTER: The Motives of Marmaduke WetherellGlasgow Boyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-13837084274351507602020-07-26T14:26:13.551-07:002020-07-26T14:26:13.551-07:00Thanks.
Thanks. <br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-9664411929910201042020-07-26T01:53:49.433-07:002020-07-26T01:53:49.433-07:00First all, great site and lots of information cove...First all, great site and lots of information covering all sorts of aspects of Loch Ness, but to the case in point of THE photograph. I do remember a documentary concerning the AAS's last visit to Loch Ness and they tried within reason, to recreate the photograph. They just had some basic plumbing pipe on an wooden base and found a location based on the original photograph and conducted their experiment. Now obviously they could not find the exact spot, but did find a place that suggested the same "locale" for the original photograph. And when they viewed their resultant photograph, they were pretty much bang on. The thing was, their model was about 2 1/2 feet in length, which again, adds another layer of controversy in this subject. Their model being so much bigger than the original alleged model. I have tried to source this documentary, but it is the very devil to track down. It was aired in the late 90's I think by CH4, again I think. <br />Anyway, great site. Been a believer all my life a d nice to see a positive side to the mystery.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04959839434810452222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-4312542205465036472019-05-01T06:23:43.913-07:002019-05-01T06:23:43.913-07:00It is possible, though this backhander was never m...It is possible, though this backhander was never mentioned in Boyd/Martin's research. It seems Spurling and Ian Wetherell never mentioned it either as a final coup de grace.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-20931105754801365542019-04-30T15:28:14.768-07:002019-04-30T15:28:14.768-07:00Money talks. If the Mail withdrew their funding fo...Money talks. If the Mail withdrew their funding for his expedition and hurt his reputation after finding out the big game hunter was duped by a piece of taxidermy (or hoaxed the prints), it's quite possible, even likely, there was a financial motive.<br /><br />So I wonder if the plan was: make hoax picture, sell it to the Mail through a middleman, let the hype take root, approach the paper and tell them they've been fooled again, take a generous backhander to keep quiet and prevent a second humiliation.<br /><br />The Daily Mail is not, and I don't think ever has been, a great champion of truth above its own interests. I suspect deals just like this have been part of their bread and butter since forever.blankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11639619196101198519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-22209357796928397592014-02-24T13:00:39.514-08:002014-02-24T13:00:39.514-08:00They can vary quite a bit from nothing to a few fe...They can vary quite a bit from nothing to a few feet in stormy weather. This photo was taken in what looks like relatively calm weather. There is not much to deduce from waves as far as I can see. A weather forecast for the day would be useful (though the wind tunnel that is Loch Ness can exaggerate what is predicted by nearby weather stations in calmer spots.<br /><br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-11380550150458709582014-02-23T11:23:11.971-08:002014-02-23T11:23:11.971-08:00One last question concerning the ripples and waves...One last question concerning the ripples and waves. On the Loch how large are the waves on a normal day? Does this photo look correct or is it a close up trying to convince people that the animal is in deep water when actually it's a mini boat in shallow water? Because the man said he stepped on it to hide it. So it has to be in water below knee height to be able to step on it. Not plausible if you consider this is all do in under 2 ft of water. I'm thinking the craft would have been seen by the bailiff. Unless the water is mud, the baliff would have seen the object just inches below surface. Maybe a person with the knowledge of the lake and it's wave pattern may be able to help settle this question. Thank youMrspreznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-7384943975447012872014-02-23T11:16:57.284-08:002014-02-23T11:16:57.284-08:00I would not think deep water was required to float...I would not think deep water was required to float the contraption. Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-87443672586916240922014-02-23T11:02:43.420-08:002014-02-23T11:02:43.420-08:00It's possible Nessie actually popped her head ...It's possible Nessie actually popped her head up and thats why there are circular ripples around the neck of the object. Possibly Wetherell and the others decided it's in the best interest of Nessie to let people think it was a hoax. And Wetherell went to his grave happily keeping this secret.Mrspreznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-51426533632174526602014-02-23T10:55:29.316-08:002014-02-23T10:55:29.316-08:00I'm glad to see this blog is still going. My q...I'm glad to see this blog is still going. My question is -the story says at one point the shape is on the back of a submarine and seems to be in deep water yet the info says "Dad put his foot on the monster and sank it, and that was that." after they were seen. How can this be so? It's a minor point yet I have a question of the truthfulness of the story.<br /><br />Mrspreznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-33621017779160750052014-01-19T02:38:58.369-08:002014-01-19T02:38:58.369-08:00I'd feel I got one over the paper if I got the...I'd feel I got one over the paper if I got them to publish it, and I'd also enjoy keeping the story going once it went huge. To me the silence is very consistent with a long term hoax at the paper's expense. Dunhuntinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-48353579979778651232013-04-25T01:07:19.335-07:002013-04-25T01:07:19.335-07:00I refer to the comment above about the hippo ashtr...I refer to the comment above about the hippo ashtray which was in possession of the Wetherell family. As it turns out, the ashtray can now be viewed at the Loch Ness Centre in Drumnadrochit.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-11856637319244898702013-04-24T20:31:31.990-07:002013-04-24T20:31:31.990-07:00Also - I thought Wetherell was the party who was d...Also - I thought Wetherell was the party who was duped by the hippo prints. He submitted photos of the prints to the Daily Mail as being those of Nessie, was embarrassed when the true source of the footprints came to light, and then developed his thirst for revenge - which, as we read above, went unslaked. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-60190660638870899002013-04-24T20:26:03.689-07:002013-04-24T20:26:03.689-07:00Some good points, indeed. I'd say they DO detr...Some good points, indeed. I'd say they DO detract from the "hoax" story. Things just don't add up. Too many unanswered questions, the "revenge motive" theory being chief among them. We can't say that the photos are definitely genuine images of something unknown, but I'd still say that's more likely than this particular hoax story. By no stretch of the imagination has the Surgeon's Photograph been "proved to be a hoax", as seems to be the common accompanying tag since Spurling's tale came out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-30085019796264742092012-03-03T16:36:31.890-08:002012-03-03T16:36:31.890-08:00The hippo foot is in possession of the Wetherell f...The hippo foot is in possession of the Wetherell family so I think it is a fair bet it is the same object You can see a photo of it in the Boyd/Martin book.<br /><br />Good point about potential legal action by the Mail. One may wonder why they didn't think about that in the first place, but who can tell what would have gone through the respective minds of Wetherell and the Mail's legal team.Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-61388639619914911522012-03-03T13:25:38.773-08:002012-03-03T13:25:38.773-08:00Slightly off-topic here I know, but I wondered if ...Slightly off-topic here I know, but I wondered if people could help me out with something - namely the whole 'hippo foot hoax' that lead allegedly to Wetherell faking the Surgeon's Photograph. The accepted wisdom seems to be that Wetherell and Pauli were responsible for the hippo prints, but others suggest they themselves were hoaxed by someone planting the footprints for them to find. To what extent (if any) has this been cleared up?<br /><br />I've also seen photographs of what has been alleged to be the infamous hippo foot itself (variously described as an ash-tray and an umbrella stand). Is there any hard evidence that this is the actual item used in the hoax or is this simply conjecture?<br /><br />As to why Wetherell didn't deliver the Coup De Grace regarding the Surgeon's Photograph, my best guess (and that's all it is I hasten to add) would be fear of legal action by the Mail. Even when he knew he was dying he may have been worried about the legal position exposure would land his son and stepson in. Pure conjecture I know, but I wonder if the conspirators weren't taken aback by what a sensation the picture proved to be. Perhaps they reckoned the stakes had been raised higher than they liked and decided it was best to keep quiet.<br /><br />Many thanks for any help you can provide with the above.Chasing Leviathannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-82367377079251563492010-12-05T11:23:59.495-08:002010-12-05T11:23:59.495-08:00Some very good points for consideration. I's s...Some very good points for consideration. I's say however that they don't take away from the story of the picture being faked, they are monor points. e.g. the mising wake might just be because the wind up mechanics ran out of energy and the model stopped.Les Johnstonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13655848425516575413noreply@blogger.com