tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post2988839000583071418..comments2024-03-20T18:13:07.791-07:00Comments on LOCH NESS MONSTER: The Peter O' Connor Photograph Part VGlasgow Boyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-23500800502605268942021-06-03T14:36:55.360-07:002021-06-03T14:36:55.360-07:00Yes, various photos should have different balances...Yes, various photos should have different balances of personal assessment. It is not a case of 100-0 or 0-100.<br /><br />The sceptics don't vanish, they just keep touting the same arguments - the aim is to dissuade and confuse.<br /><br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-89205949082341316142021-06-03T00:58:40.001-07:002021-06-03T00:58:40.001-07:00Yeah, there's just 'something' about i...Yeah, there's just 'something' about it isn't there. I'm about the same as you with it, part of me thinks it's in the 'too good to be true' camp, a slightly larger part of me considers it genuine.<br /><br />It's funny how all these sceptics seem to vanish when you discredit the claims they make.The Latmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06228181560551010073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-62160265433719015572021-06-02T12:54:39.647-07:002021-06-02T12:54:39.647-07:00A part six would have followed if the publicised s...A part six would have followed if the publicised sceptical critique mentioned at the top had appeared. It never did as far as I know, so no sixth article.<br /><br />I am 55-45 in favour of this being a genuine Nessie photo.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-47247028758588507522021-06-02T06:25:28.257-07:002021-06-02T06:25:28.257-07:00Oi, GB....... I completely forgot about these arti...Oi, GB....... I completely forgot about these articles.....did you ever do a part 6? Have you ever given your opinion on if this photo is genuine or hoaxed?The Latmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06228181560551010073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-49471752148647091382018-06-13T18:57:15.843-07:002018-06-13T18:57:15.843-07:00Dinsdale describes the event in his book. I do not...Dinsdale describes the event in his book. I do not recall if he was watching or driving for this "sighting", but it was much as you described - something that looks alive is just water around rocks. I think (do not have the book in front of me) that the light was bad/sun was setting, but Tim was sure enough to film. When he went back to the site the next day he realized it was just mostly submerged rocks. I wish Tim had released this footage, as it is an interesting part of the story. I do want to see photos/film of things that could pass for Nessie, natural or otherwise, but are nothing of the sort, in the same way that I want to see photos/film of an actual Nessie. But all I ever see is obvious fakes/floating sticks, or blurry, indistinct blobs. But seeing what fooled Tim would be informative in many ways...hopkarmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04721458738337150295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-13213729363850532752018-06-10T06:01:49.234-07:002018-06-10T06:01:49.234-07:00I didn't know he had a first film. I was actua...I didn't know he had a first film. I was actually driving which made a sighting sproradic, but I would imagine anyone who was filming was stationary. I've seen a few things with wakes as well that show me how easy it is to misidentify, but also how much more valuable that makes an unambiguous sighting.Martin Curranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09590190801760284564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-83503186177791470302018-06-07T13:06:06.259-07:002018-06-07T13:06:06.259-07:00I don't know about that. Mikko Takala might co...I don't know about that. Mikko Takala might consider a recording as proprietary and want his own “experts” to analyze it. You know how touchy, possessive and guarded and the infighting that goes on with some researchers about major discoveries or conclusions. Hopefully GB is on good terms with Mr. Takala. Just saying. lolJohn Alvaradohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18069155979480353745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-79436968198826875172018-06-07T06:58:50.156-07:002018-06-07T06:58:50.156-07:00Surely the footage will still be available ..i tho...Surely the footage will still be available ..i thought thats wat the webcams wer for ..so u look back on anything that looks unusual! Getting the actual webcam recording wud be a must so we cud study it further! Its intrestin but wud be good to get the cam recording... it cud be anything and it does look like it changes shape and goes down but if the loch was choppy and it was a small boat it cud make it look like its going down even though its not. Can we find out the weather conditions on that day? Was it choppy? Im sure we can leave that in ur capable hands GB lol. If its not a boat its very intrestin..but we need to get more info on it and the conditions...love new material and we shud spend more time on this than old hat fotos we still go on bout..only my humble of course....cheers RoyROYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07593737226241908577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-65944871390295557502018-06-05T17:48:32.318-07:002018-06-05T17:48:32.318-07:00It looks like he did what he did in the heat of th...It looks like he did what he did in the heat of the moment.I cant see how he could do anything else to be fair.GEZZAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093032226034742612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-91832270482318663982018-06-05T12:17:31.139-07:002018-06-05T12:17:31.139-07:00GEZZA Agreed! It's "something" and s...GEZZA Agreed! It's "something" and sizable. Barring acquisition of web cam video, a video capture card would have come in handy.John Alvaradohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18069155979480353745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-4224944700093246232018-06-05T10:30:19.936-07:002018-06-05T10:30:19.936-07:00Hello Gezza, is this the video? It certainly doesn...Hello Gezza, is this the video? It certainly doesn't look like a boat in the water does it? https://youtu.be/ZQHx6vwaCAkNaturewatch Enghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03062985122288755141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-54811331473545297042018-06-05T08:01:45.332-07:002018-06-05T08:01:45.332-07:00I disagree with that John. It clearly shows someth...I disagree with that John. It clearly shows something sizeable moving through the water blurry or not. I agree its a must to get the actual webcam image and wonder if its available. I brought it up because i know Roland is the man to dig up any information.GEZZAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093032226034742612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-43543650848293433532018-06-05T05:38:32.052-07:002018-06-05T05:38:32.052-07:00Yes, another shambolic missed opportunity. Or mayb...Yes, another shambolic missed opportunity. Or maybe there's no point carrying good equipment because you'll only see something if you never have the means to capture it....Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15978847580481593172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-1939486771651189922018-06-04T22:47:36.855-07:002018-06-04T22:47:36.855-07:00If you are referring to the recording made by Eoin...If you are referring to the recording made by Eoin O'Faodhagain off of a computer monitor of the web cam operated by Mikko Takala, which I believe you are, I don't think much can be said about blurry images recorded with a 1 mega pixel potato cam used by Mr. O'Faodhagain. :) I wonder if the onsight web cam video is somehow recorded. Then there is a chance of showing something definitive, because it does appear to be HQ video as you can see here:<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNAenAGor-sJohn Alvaradohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18069155979480353745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-44486763348946617012018-06-04T16:47:55.585-07:002018-06-04T16:47:55.585-07:00A rather poor fake. Burton that is. As for the pho...A rather poor fake. Burton that is. As for the photo? Physically improbable in the extreme...hopkarmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04721458738337150295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-51944813105456871182018-06-04T16:43:31.934-07:002018-06-04T16:43:31.934-07:00Your rock/seal sighting sounds a lot like Dinsdale...Your rock/seal sighting sounds a lot like Dinsdale's first film, which I don't think anyone has seen...hopkarmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04721458738337150295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-14907144304995287202018-06-04T13:41:52.633-07:002018-06-04T13:41:52.633-07:00Understood, Roland. I'm really of the view tha...Understood, Roland. I'm really of the view that if a photo stands up to decades of debunking attempts then it's almost definitely the real thing. I'd classify the O'Connor photo as in that category. Thanks largely to your skill in debunking the debunkers. <br /><br />I'd always taken a positive view on this photo. Quite simply the object is so close to the camera that if it really were constructed from fake materials such as tarpaulin and a stick it would be instantly recognisable as such, but that's not the case. The texture of the back looks anything but man made to me. I believe this is what people see when they report seeing a single hump. I apologise if that sounds too optimistic but I'm firmly in the believer camp and have been since the 1970s.Naturewatch Enghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03062985122288755141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-65368283496068833182018-06-04T12:03:48.470-07:002018-06-04T12:03:48.470-07:00Great write up again Roland and im eagerly awaitin...Great write up again Roland and im eagerly awaiting your write up on the new video taken off the webcam.GEZZAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093032226034742612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-85702853627121916322018-06-04T10:12:07.295-07:002018-06-04T10:12:07.295-07:00I think it's a fake John but I'm still int...I think it's a fake John but I'm still intrigued by the new revelations and GB's take on it. Kyle Tittertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07575714238450998417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-65766185890264486372018-06-04T05:23:58.682-07:002018-06-04T05:23:58.682-07:00Well in one sense it is an article about Maurice B...Well in one sense it is an article about Maurice Burton. On the other hand, and bizzarely, these and other articles critique sceptical theories - something sceptical forums/websites should be doing.<br /><br />Regarding the Wilson negative, we are talking 30 years after the event, I presume it could have still been around, I don't recall the likes of Whyte or Dinsdale mentioning it. <br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-14643902237024078402018-06-04T03:18:17.795-07:002018-06-04T03:18:17.795-07:00Note my previous articles concern themselves more ...Note my previous articles concern themselves more with critiquing sceptical theories rather than proving the object in the picture is a 20 foot long monster. That is rather more difficult to do.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-8464283304651552492018-06-04T02:47:48.348-07:002018-06-04T02:47:48.348-07:00I have no real idea if this is genuine or not. But...I have no real idea if this is genuine or not. But Mr Burton's 'debunk' amounts to nothing really. I'm in full agreement with you there. Burton sounds like he was a slippery character. Withholding evidence (the Taylor film, because no one would believe it of course) and shaping his jigsaw pieces to fit. Not the mark of a scientist.<br />It's funny, yesterday I had a sighting of what I was convinced was a seal, close to shore. Turned out to be a rock with waves splashing upon it, giving the impression of motion. However, that was my mistake and not everyone else's. That's the way I look at it, but that view is clearly not shared by many'scientists' involved in the Loch Ness mystery. We are a species bestowed with great intelligence, and great stupidity.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15978847580481593172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-5636578847303209102018-06-04T02:24:47.539-07:002018-06-04T02:24:47.539-07:00He may have seen three prints, but he may have mis...He may have seen three prints, but he may have misremembered the contents after 20 years. Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-68170270193350190192018-06-04T02:23:22.550-07:002018-06-04T02:23:22.550-07:00A part VI is now guaranteed. :)
A part VI is now guaranteed. :)<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-63455664560963080152018-06-04T02:22:13.645-07:002018-06-04T02:22:13.645-07:00We'll see ... I should comment on the two new ...We'll see ... I should comment on the two new recent videos.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.com