tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post2897032604552334733..comments2024-03-20T18:13:07.791-07:00Comments on LOCH NESS MONSTER: 200 Years of the Inverness Courier and the Loch Ness MonsterGlasgow Boyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-82364332707906176872017-12-21T08:16:42.689-08:002017-12-21T08:16:42.689-08:00I can relate to wat ur saying gezza cus i work in ...I can relate to wat ur saying gezza cus i work in construction lol not many wud admit to seeing summit unusual in loch for fear of bin ribbed lol i get ribbed for just aving an intrest in the mystery ha... on a similar note im sure ive read in one of my books that soldiers stationed at urquhart castle many years ago were told not to mention any strange sightings on the loch but many years later one or two retired men admitted they saw strange things on the water...cheers RoyROYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07593737226241908577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-20936039241676887022017-12-19T11:38:10.899-08:002017-12-19T11:38:10.899-08:00Yes but lets not forget that these workers would b...Yes but lets not forget that these workers would be working and not sightseeing, plus the noise would probably drive any animal away to somewhere quieter. And i dont think big tough construction workers would be quick enough to admit to seeing a monster in the loch.GEZZAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093032226034742612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-36427505591013944892017-12-19T05:22:37.748-08:002017-12-19T05:22:37.748-08:00As you may glean from the article title, the Couri...As you may glean from the article title, the Courier did not start until 1817 when most of the canal was finished. Not sure what was around in the way of highland newspapers b4 then.<br /><br />The railway line certainly went to Fort Augustus, but I doubt it passed anywhere near the loch after that.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-31196380780736035422017-12-19T05:17:10.305-08:002017-12-19T05:17:10.305-08:00Hmmm, when I was examining the Inverness Courier/N...Hmmm, when I was examining the Inverness Courier/Northern Chronicle archives awhile back, "piscator" (the author of the 1930 letter) was also found to be writing a letter to them in 1912. Alex Campbell was just a kid back then.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-6941197261106358122017-12-18T07:35:51.650-08:002017-12-18T07:35:51.650-08:00How do you know there wasnt any sightings John?How do you know there wasnt any sightings John?GEZZAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093032226034742612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-10168743359250393562017-12-18T04:00:04.673-08:002017-12-18T04:00:04.673-08:00If I was a gambling man (and I am) I'd guess ...If I was a gambling man (and I am) I'd guess that JR was British. Probably Scottish. Kyle Tittertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07575714238450998417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-51276880098135887882017-12-18T02:40:32.282-08:002017-12-18T02:40:32.282-08:00I've checked the rail map for the area too. In...I've checked the rail map for the area too. In no way comparable to the road construction. In simple terms the road runs the length of the loch in clear view of it but there's no equivalent rail line. There's your answer John. Would you mind me asking, are you American or British? Some of your comments make me think you're American, others suggest you're British. Just wondering.Will Soutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005247829328136516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-76862987728914490632017-12-17T22:44:00.851-08:002017-12-17T22:44:00.851-08:00John, the canal digging would not have involved en...John, the canal digging would not have involved endless hours at the side of the loch like the road works. Most of the canal work would've been out of sight of the loch. I will need to research the train track construction, and the extent to which it granted the workers a view of the loch, but I am certain it did not match the view of the road workers.Will Soutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005247829328136516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-31863114335153818812017-12-17T08:46:23.190-08:002017-12-17T08:46:23.190-08:00You mean absence of 'currently available repor...You mean absence of 'currently available reports' of sightings. That's very different to an absence of sightings.Will Soutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005247829328136516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-24202000416324350422017-12-16T02:34:05.534-08:002017-12-16T02:34:05.534-08:00Roland I'm sorry I cannot afford to buy your b...Roland I'm sorry I cannot afford to buy your book just now. Rather incredibly my best friend just this morning sent me a 1st edition 1934 copy of Robert Gould's The Loch Ness Monster for Xmas. She tracked it down in New Zealand apparently. Reading it right now. Kyle Tittertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07575714238450998417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-18482325785583851592017-12-15T11:35:28.682-08:002017-12-15T11:35:28.682-08:00Great tale that Roland, and im sure the descriptio...Great tale that Roland, and im sure the description by the diver of a huge odd looking frog will be of interest to our friend Mr Plambeck.GEZZAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093032226034742612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-19403711218271741042017-12-14T20:41:40.860-08:002017-12-14T20:41:40.860-08:00Thanks Roland for the link, very interesting artic...Thanks Roland for the link, very interesting article! <br />Jordan Newhouse Artworkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11106532852180727936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-77384262159721734682017-12-14T16:00:22.023-08:002017-12-14T16:00:22.023-08:00An article I wrote a while back:
http://lochnessm...An article I wrote a while back:<br /><br />http://lochnessmystery.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/a-rediscovered-divers-tale.htmlGlasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-81976189809547049572017-12-14T15:45:38.678-08:002017-12-14T15:45:38.678-08:00Was the Duncan MacDonald diver sighting ever menti...Was the Duncan MacDonald diver sighting ever mentioned in the Inverness Courier? He pulled hard on his recovery line or air hose attached to his old model divers helmet and came from the waters near Fort Augustus panicked. 1850's but I'm possibly mistaken. <br />A sighting like that would travel fast and maybe reach the local papers. Plus I'm sure Roland you would have attached it to this article but I'm just eager to learn more about a pre 1933 strange encounter.Jordan Newhouse Artworkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11106532852180727936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-41452048739607031852017-12-13T07:12:00.659-08:002017-12-13T07:12:00.659-08:00I would suggest that the kelpie tales were based o...I would suggest that the kelpie tales were based on real life experiences with the animals in centuries past. The more exotic elements, such as presenting themselves as horses to be ridden then galloping with the victim into the water, are probably embellishments which came into being for two factors: (1) Everyone loves to tell others about a scary event and human nature tends to exaggerate scariness of events with re-telling; (2) Additional worrisome details may have been deliberately added to make others view these animals as something to fear. This could be because the witness erroneously regarded the animals as dangerous, or it could have been to protect the animals from human intervention.<br />I think there can be no doubt in the mind of any objective and analytical person that the tales of kelpies, water horses and water bulls truly strengthen the case for flesh and blood Nessies.Will Soutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005247829328136516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-19822745897424704812017-12-13T00:32:46.542-08:002017-12-13T00:32:46.542-08:00I'm not dismissing the idea out of hand that t...I'm not dismissing the idea out of hand that there's a history of pre '33 legitimate sightings. I just am not entirely convinced by the evidence I've read so far. Personally I just see no correlation between the Kelpie Myth and the Loch Ness Monster other than that they're both Scottish. One is clearly mythical and one may have some scientific basis in reality. Behaviour is completely different but I've not read Roland's book so I can't look at the whole picture and sadly I can't afford it right now. Maybe my missus will buy me it for Xmas? Kyle Tittertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07575714238450998417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-53789239829099729822017-12-12T10:24:36.473-08:002017-12-12T10:24:36.473-08:00"Breathless" eh, John? I think the loch ..."Breathless" eh, John? I think the loch was being so carefully watched in 33/34 that many more genuine sightings than usual actually did happen. Though I concede that among the great many real sightings of these wonderful creatures there were probably a small number of mistaken natural phenomena due to over-excitement. I don't think those mistakes would count for more than 1 or 2 percent of the reports though.Will Soutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005247829328136516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-58728367864071071312017-12-12T08:26:17.133-08:002017-12-12T08:26:17.133-08:00https://www.amazon.co.uk/Water-Horses-Loch-Ness-su...https://www.amazon.co.uk/Water-Horses-Loch-Ness-supernatural/dp/1461178193/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1513095924&sr=8-1&keywords=water+horses+of+loch+ness<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-19952654765765941292017-12-11T23:57:08.318-08:002017-12-11T23:57:08.318-08:00Kyle, an entire book has been written on the old t...Kyle, an entire book has been written on the old tales of water horses at Loch Ness. I've not been able to afford a copy as yet, but it was authored by Roland Watson who writes this blog. Perhaps it would be wise to read that before dismissing the entire evidence accumulated pre-1930?<br />There are differences in reports yes, but that is to be expected. A combination of different angles, lighting, different individual specimens, animals holding their heads in a different aspect, excitable and shocked eyewitnesses. Plenty of reasons for variations in reports.Will Soutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005247829328136516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-5611016800365685072017-12-11T12:17:47.581-08:002017-12-11T12:17:47.581-08:00This issue of the monster's existence before t...This issue of the monster's existence before the modern era is, for me, a tricky subject. From the evidence I've read the pre '33 sightings are hard to judge. So many came retrospectively after the 'official' birth of the legend in '33 that it throws their veracity into question. It simply has to at the very least because: 1) memory plays as factor and 2) Why would you not come forward at the time? However if it has been officially documented at the time in the press then both these issues become mute which clouds my judgement. They are certainly intriguing. My main issue would be that there are so many disparate identifications that it would appear to be a chimera beast. There is one tale that is very intriguing however, the diver who saw something that resembled a massive frog on a ledge that petrified him. Maybe it's just the vivid tale I like but it strikes me as something a serious diver would not lie about. Additionally there's a tale from Loch Morar about a similar creature. I guess I tend to latch onto similar stories because there's an element of corroboration which lends some legitimacy. Kyle Tittertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07575714238450998417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-46127753246986939272017-12-09T03:06:23.586-08:002017-12-09T03:06:23.586-08:00Dick's just doing his job.Dick's just doing his job.johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13948846515909819569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-83589943762695747142017-12-08T07:26:11.881-08:002017-12-08T07:26:11.881-08:00John, I could find phrases you use here which matc...John, I could find phrases you use here which match with posts made by other users. The similarity you mention is hardly in the forensic lightbulb category! And more importantly see Glasgow Boy's reply above. You're familiar with newspapers employing editors I assume?Will Soutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005247829328136516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-37074989218506146632017-12-08T05:13:13.319-08:002017-12-08T05:13:13.319-08:00John, have you read my book on the subject?
As fo...John, have you read my book on the subject?<br /><br />As for Alex Campbell and "what was it?", I would suggest that phrase was added by the same newspaper editor to both the article and letter three years apart. I doubt the author of the letter sent it in to the Courier with the headline "What Was It?".<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-81280945760523997112017-12-07T14:38:58.906-08:002017-12-07T14:38:58.906-08:00Are you seriously saying that two separate article...Are you seriously saying that two separate articles containing a simple phrase as "What was it?" is proof of both having been written by the same person?<br />I'm sighing and rolling my eyes at this. John, you really need to question your own demands on what constitutes "evidence".Will Soutarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005247829328136516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-6876582389634037172017-12-07T13:56:01.924-08:002017-12-07T13:56:01.924-08:00John, the article from 1868 mentions that Loch Nes...John, the article from 1868 mentions that Loch Ness had a reputation for harboring something strange. So where did the writer of that article get that idea from? The reasonable answer is that it was fairly common knowledge in the Loch Ness area at that time.paddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08990245875787442561noreply@blogger.com