tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post2383856009501666832..comments2024-03-20T18:13:07.791-07:00Comments on LOCH NESS MONSTER: Lachlan Stuart's Daughter SpeaksGlasgow Boyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comBlogger91125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-36195132415349337402018-02-13T15:04:36.120-08:002018-02-13T15:04:36.120-08:00He did but whether he found the exact spot where S...He did but whether he found the exact spot where Stuart's creature was is less certain as my own site investigation found numerous potential spots which lined up the hills in the same way but had differing depths. <br /><br />Also Dick Raynor failed to find a spot for their third hay bale as it would have sunk out of sight.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-29348908075300501432018-02-13T11:06:09.170-08:002018-02-13T11:06:09.170-08:00Didn't Dick Raynor a little investigation on t...Didn't Dick Raynor a little investigation on this photo? <br />He went there at Whitefield exactly were Stuart took his photo. <br />The thing Raynor discovered was that the lake is very shallow were the humps is supposed to be.<br /><br />Perfect for someone to dump a few "hay-humps" covered with tarpelin.<br />Fake, If you ask me but I must confess that I love all these black and white "nessie"-photos.grimlundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07789584779110902472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-17420795564696866082015-03-17T17:27:29.152-07:002015-03-17T17:27:29.152-07:00It's hard to know what I posted (or for anyone...It's hard to know what I posted (or for anyone else to judge my tone) when you're withholding my comments and only allowing your reactions to be visible.<br /><br />I said that family is typically biased toward their own. You consider that a "dig"?ekmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-30998299706629764852015-03-17T13:50:17.005-07:002015-03-17T13:50:17.005-07:00ekm, wny don't you try and post a comment whic...ekm, wny don't you try and post a comment which doesn't feel the need to take a dig at someone else?<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-56272873231826281042015-03-17T10:42:00.147-07:002015-03-17T10:42:00.147-07:00Have to say, as hoaxes go i think it would've ...Have to say, as hoaxes go i think it would've been a relatively easy one to pull off.<br /><br />I'm too young to speak with authority, but i can't imagine forestry workers wandering the Foyers road with haybales and/or tarpaulin would've been that out of place in the 50s.<br /><br />We don't know that nobody else saw them. We only know that it's only Frere who documented seeing them.<br /><br />Still a great image though.trevorthecatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-40458709596066527152015-03-17T00:48:24.652-07:002015-03-17T00:48:24.652-07:00strange how mr frere kept it quiet for so long and...strange how mr frere kept it quiet for so long and strange how his story changed. Makes me wonder if he actually rumbled lachlan stuarts hoax. Maybe he found the bales or overheard a conversarion!! If Lachlan still denied it then he cudnt tell the world could he? so that would make sense why he left it till he had passed away. Perhaps he knew lachlan had used bales of hay but cudnt get him to admit it. Therefore he wanted the world to know it was a hoax cus he felt it was wrong. Hence the confusion of what frere told people. Makes sense to me !!!jakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-54366780737806414072015-03-16T08:56:14.060-07:002015-03-16T08:56:14.060-07:00After more reaserch on this photo ive just read ...After more reaserch on this photo ive just read that tony harmsworth claims Frere told him he was there when lachlan did the hoax. But frere then claimed lachlan told him about it. If this is true then i cant believe mr frere's claim!!! This story has so many twists !!jakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-23664164629126608662015-03-15T20:28:01.416-07:002015-03-15T20:28:01.416-07:00Two observations on previous posts: As far as the ...Two observations on previous posts: As far as the depth and/or distance from shore of the objects - since it is close to shore as opposed to in the middle of the lake wouldn't whether it was high or low tide affect the depth and the apparent distance from shore? And as far as stray bits of hay around the location of the sighting - that would only be relevant if you were looking for evidence or proof of hay bales being used as humps. I don't know who/when the first mention of a hay bale hoax was made, but at the time they wanted a story and LS was willing to talk...hopkarmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04721458738337150295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-34830957169709575332015-03-15T18:18:36.209-07:002015-03-15T18:18:36.209-07:00Consider this as to why not all photos said to be ...Consider this as to why not all photos said to be of the LNM look the same: At least twice a year, sometimes more, I have reason to dig a hole. If you happen to go past my property while I am digging a hole you may see me. At different times of year I will be dressed differently, and depending on conditions I will use different shovels. Sometimes I have help digging the hole, and depending on when in the process you see me I will appear very different; a creature with a head, two arms and two legs or a creature with a head, two arms and stubby lower appendages of varying size...hopkarmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04721458738337150295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-41592781765865476562015-03-13T07:54:26.936-07:002015-03-13T07:54:26.936-07:00ekm, your comment on Lachlan Stuart's family i...ekm, your comment on Lachlan Stuart's family is not welcome here.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-30262570872163733902015-03-13T06:33:10.499-07:002015-03-13T06:33:10.499-07:00There's another thing we agree on: that it wou...There's another thing we agree on: that it would be absolutely awesome if large animals unknown to science were swimming in the depths of Loch Ness. I think, just like I did as a child, that such a scenario would be incredibly exciting.Geordie Scepticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-83759618211409937382015-03-13T00:09:26.039-07:002015-03-13T00:09:26.039-07:00OK Roland, I think I found what you were referenci...OK Roland, I think I found what you were referencing. In Dinsdales first book, he quotes Hugh Rowand (Rowland?) proprietor of Foyers Hotel as having a sighting of a triangular object speeding across the loch.<br /><br />It's interesting to note that Dinsdale once made a clay model of a Nessie, based on reported characteristics. The model shows a creature with three humps, the middle hump more triangular and larger than the other two, eerily reminiscent of the configuration shown in the Stuart photo. One can say that perhaps Dinsdale was influenced by the Stuart photo. But, Stuart could not have been influenced by the Dinsdale model, as the Stuart photo predates the model by ten years!John Alvaradohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18069155979480353745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-90936139552502102202015-03-12T16:56:49.689-07:002015-03-12T16:56:49.689-07:00Gee... Geordie, I'm hurt! Are you implying tha...Gee... Geordie, I'm hurt! Are you implying that all us believers are illiterate boobs. And I thought we were friends now. :-( John Alvaradohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18069155979480353745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-47924630649054860772015-03-12T15:50:00.069-07:002015-03-12T15:50:00.069-07:00I think sarcasm gives Guam a big kick. Each to the...I think sarcasm gives Guam a big kick. Each to their own eh!Geordie Scepticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-75761839328447158502015-03-12T15:29:04.352-07:002015-03-12T15:29:04.352-07:00I am more inclined to that than one, but have made...I am more inclined to that than one, but have made no firm decision. I don't think the creature is as close to the shore as made out, so there is more room for body depth.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-52707916361747084862015-03-12T15:17:42.713-07:002015-03-12T15:17:42.713-07:00I think Guam is going way off course from my origi...I think Guam is going way off course from my original point. That point being that sceptics choose a basic enough "unknown" animal that makes it easier to reject diverse photos. The discussion on such diversity I will leave to a future article.Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-34284243406481705832015-03-12T10:04:41.021-07:002015-03-12T10:04:41.021-07:00In the photograph that is shown in this article th...In the photograph that is shown in this article the waves at the bottom seem to be almost breaking.There is white water showing on the crests which suggests to me that they are near the shoreline.Other photographs are cropped more tightly and these waves do not show.In Witchell's Loch Ness Story the distance of the creature is given as about 50 yards offshore.JackAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-52372878589687132442015-03-12T09:22:05.052-07:002015-03-12T09:22:05.052-07:00I actually think you're an astute, clever blok...I actually think you're an astute, clever bloke. You just seem to enjoy the booze a lot :-)Geordie Scepticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-46257393120706274332015-03-12T08:38:43.297-07:002015-03-12T08:38:43.297-07:00I was referring to after the event when the media ...I was referring to after the event when the media got wind of the photo. I can hardly think of a reason for an Express journalist to be on the shore of Loch Ness at 6:30am.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-84918761546782560662015-03-12T05:49:57.434-07:002015-03-12T05:49:57.434-07:00Ok Sir, now I am somewhat confused. Perplexed even...Ok Sir, now I am somewhat confused. Perplexed even. For the last few years your blog has proclaimed that Loch Ness is a sparsely populated area with little observation taking place. This, we are told, is one of the reasons no one has filmed the beast clearly.<br /><br />Surely such an area would quite easily allow Lachlan Stuart to execute a prank like this, and remain undetected by media, forestry workers etc?<br /><br />AndrewAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-11371220040066835222015-03-12T05:17:19.001-07:002015-03-12T05:17:19.001-07:00I saw them both yesterday funny enuf geordie. I sa...I saw them both yesterday funny enuf geordie. I saw Adrian later on in a pub in fort augustus. He was in company so didnt get to speak to him. Last thing he would have wanted was a daft drunk moithering him ha ha . Would of rounded the day off nicely if i had Of spoken though. Good thing about Dick and Adrian is they have time to talk to anyone. Even a humble lad like me lol :) jakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-65874632749488712092015-03-12T04:39:35.418-07:002015-03-12T04:39:35.418-07:00Do you think the picture shows three monsters, Rol...Do you think the picture shows three monsters, Roland?Geordie Scepticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-28833275165927590462015-03-12T03:14:07.936-07:002015-03-12T03:14:07.936-07:00I must admit it did seem very odd that such an int...I must admit it did seem very odd that such an intelligent writer would be a Nessie believer, but I thought you were just trying to rip my posts apart, paragraph by paragraph...Geordie Scepticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-30790576556535969602015-03-12T03:13:38.106-07:002015-03-12T03:13:38.106-07:00One more question on reproducing photos.
If a sci...One more question on reproducing photos.<br /><br />If a scientist was collecting data to plot a graph but he only accepted the data points which fitted his desired curve, would you accept this as a valid experiment?<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-358999656752738469.post-3679673767382190552015-03-12T03:09:26.620-07:002015-03-12T03:09:26.620-07:00Hmmm, I think I know where your not so unbiased lo...Hmmm, I think I know where your not so unbiased loyalities lie. Don't worship them too much when you meet, it could become embarrassing.<br /><br />What if a similar picture was produced but required buoys because hay bales would sink? Would it be high on your list of preferences?<br /><br />You do of course realise that the hay bales used are a lot smaller than the stated size of the 1951 humps? This necessitates them being closer to shore and hence in shallower water to cover the same are on the print.<br /><br />This is not a problem to the sceptic, since they would just discard this part of the testimony. Easy job this.<br />Glasgow Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597014995112568086noreply@blogger.com